Re: Use DEFAULT argument to completing-read

Martin Buchholz writes: Maybe. It's true if you believe that all that code is our responsibility. One point of breaking out the packages is that we no longer are responsible for the quality of all the code that claims to run under XEmacs. The stuff distributed ouside the core XEmacs is not part of XEmacs anymore. Your statement is false if you believe in the new reality, as I do. I'm serious. We need to stop thining of every piece of Lisp in the package tree as being part of XEmacs and our responsibility. Today's model more clearly reflects reality. We could put all the code back into the distribution and pretend that we were doing quality control. But that doesn't mean QC will actually get done. Past evidence indicates that it won't, which is part of what drove us to push the ever increasing pile of Lisp code out of the distribution. Getting a stable XEmacs is the same as getting a stable working environment involving an operating system and some number of applications. Unless you get the whole bundle from a vendor, there will be some experimentation involved in getting a setup you're satisfied with. Well, that's certainly provocating enough to get discussion going. :) My opinion: the XEmacs audience is largely computer professionals who will have no problem using 'tar' (or similar) and installing the packages they need to get work done. So I think providing a fancy interface over the package system is largely a waste of time. We need a way to keep unstable packages from the stable ones, so the user gets a choice. We need a way for the user to easily see what they need to install to get a certain feature.