Re: Python mode failures with xemacs
David Kastrup writes:
"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
> David Kastrup was a little peeved, and I don't blame him. His project
> can't get merged because they lack assignments for maybe 5% or 10% of
> the code in AUCTeX,
What makes you think that? I don't think we have significant pieces of
knowingly unassigned code
Of course there's very little "knowingly" unassigned code! That's my
point: you've done due diligence until it hurts. I don't think 5% of
the code is "significant" anyway. The chance that the FSF would get
sued is vanishingly small, and if you did, the judge would throw any
damages out the window; there's no evidence of intent or commercial
gain, and plenty of evidence of due diligence, present "sloppiness"
notwithstanding (and if you ever need a character witness to that
effect, I'll pay my own plane fare!)
> but CEDET can be merged even though the way it was done makes
it
> impossible for 3rd parties to legally redistribute the FSF's
> tarballs!
It was an honest mistake,
Yes and no. The current leadership is taking Emacs somewhere Richard
would never want it to go: to open source. They won't admit it even
to themselves, but that's what's happening; they're making tradeoffs
of "the most free way to do things" against features. I don't have a
problem with that personally (except that it will make Emacs somewhat
harder to keep up with for XEmacs ;-), but I think it's disingenuous
for Emacs maintainers (and that fundamental difference is one reason
why I today limit my contributions to those of the "Unwelcome Guest"
on the ML).
and I never even thought of considering this a competition of
packages.
(I think you underestimate the importance of AUCTeX. For many people
I know, AUCTeX is the only reason they would consider using Emacsen.)
I apologize for inadvertantly misrepresenting your position. What I
meant by "peeved" you expressed very well:
The one thing that really caught me off-balance is that anybody
except Richard Stallman bothering about licensing issues and
software freedom and available source code is more or less a
spoilsport and alarmist raining on the parade.
I knew everything else you wrote, but didn't put it in my message
because it wasn't relevant my point. Again, I apologize for
misrepresenting your position.
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