(e.g., grepping for ssl turns up nothing).  It should be easy to
implement given ssl.el though.  Altough I'm not sure which version
should be extended...  Do we have a volunteer to work on POP3?  The
idea of rewriting all current POP3 versions into pop.el sounds better
and better.
Peter Davis <pdavis(a)pageflexinc.com> writes:
 I'll be happy to test this as soon as I can get a fix for my
other
 problem ... I can't access one of my POP3 servers at all because they
 (AT&T) switched to an SSL port.  I've found some references to pop3s
 and stunnel, but nothing clear enough for me to procede on.
 Once I can find out how to use SSL with gnus, I'll be back to test this out.
 Thanks,
 -pd
 At 05:27 PM 03/29/2002, Andy Piper wrote:
>Patched file attached.
>
>andy
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xemacs-beta-admin(a)xemacs.org
> > [mailto:xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org]On Behalf Of Peter Davis
> > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 5:19 AM
> > To: xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org
> > Subject: Setting 'pop3-leave-mail-on-server' for each server
> >
> >
> > This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team,
> >  not to your local site managers!!
> > Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have
> > translators to read other languages for them.
> >
> >
> > Please describe as succinctly as possible:
> >       - What happened.
> >       - What you thought should have happened.
> >       - Precisely what you were doing at the time.
> >
> > Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have.
> > ================================================================
> > Dear Bug Team!
> >
> > I'm trying to use the 'pop3-leave-mail-on-server' feature
selectively,
> > so that I leave mail on some POP3 servers, but delete it from others.
> > I've tried the code below.  However, for any server that calls
> > 'pop3-delete-on', I simply get no messages from that server.  The
> > messages are left on the server, but they never show up in my nnml
> > groups. (I'm using gnus 5.8.8).  If I later switch the :prescript for
> > that server back to 'pop3-delete-off', I get the backlogged messages.
> >
> > Here's the code in my .gnus file for this:
> > ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
> > ;These functions enable/disable POP3 expunging for XEmacs
> > (defun pop3-delete-on ()
> >   (interactive)
> >   (message "Deleting mail from POP3 server.")
> >   (setq pop3-leave-mail-on-server nil))
> >
> > (defun pop3-delete-off ()
> >   (interactive)
> >   (message "Leaving mail on POP3 server.")
> >   (setq pop3-leave-mail-on-server t))
> >
> > (if (string-match "XEmacs\\|Lucid" emacs-version)
> >     (
> >       setq nnmail-movemail-program 'pop3-nnmail-movemail
> >            pop3-leave-mail-on-server t
> >            nnmail-spool-file '("po:peter_davis@mediaone.net"
> >                                "po:pd@world.std.com"
> >                                "po:pdavis@bitstream.com"
> >                              )
> >            mail-sources '((pop :server "pop.ne.mediaone.net"
> >                                :user   "peter_davis"
> >                                :prescript pop3-delete-off)
> >                           (pop :server "pop.theworld.com"
> >                                :user   "pd"
> >                                :prescript pop3-delete-on)
> >                           (pop :server "mail.bitstream.com"
> >                                :user   "pdavis"
> >                                :prescript pop3-delete-off)
> >                        )
> >            ;;pop3-uidl-file-name "d:/home/.uidls"
> >        )
> > ; ...
> > )
> > ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
> >
> > I do see the messages, so I know these functions are being called.
> > However, the pop3-delete-on function seems to completely disable that
> > server somehow.
> >
> > Is the value of pop3-leave-mail-on-server cached somehow?  Is there
> > some other way I could code this to get the desired effect?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -pd
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ================================================================
> >
> > System Info to help track down your bug:
> > ---------------------------------------
> >
> > OS version:
> >
> > Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
> > OS: Windows_NT
> >
> > XEmacs 21.4.6 \"Common Lisp (Windows [1])\" configured for
> > `i586-pc-win32'.
> >
> >   Building XEmacs in \"f:\\xemacs\\xemacs-21.4-release\\nt\".
> >   Using compiler \"cl -nologo -W3 -O2 -G5 -ML\".
> >   Installing XEmacs in \"c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\XEmacs-21.4.6\".
> >   Package path is \"~\\.xemacs;;c:\\Program
> > Files\\XEmacs\\site-packages;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\xemacs-packages\".
> >   Compiling in support for Microsoft Windows native GUI.
> >   Compiling in support for XPM images.
> >   Compiling in support for GIF images.
> >   Compiling in support for PNG images.
> >   Compiling in support for TIFF images.
> >   Compiling in support for JPEG images.
> >   Compiling in support for X-Face message headers.
> >   Compiling in support for toolbars.
> >   Compiling in support for dialogs.
> >   Compiling in support for widgets.
> >   Compiling in support for native sounds.
> >   Compiling in fast dired implementation.
> >   Using minimal tagbits.
> >   Using indexed lrecord implementation.
> >   Using portable dumper.
> >
> >
> > Load-Path Lisp Shadows:
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> > d:\HOME\emacsdir\records-1.4.8\records-load
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> > Files/XEmacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mail-lib\pop3 d:\Program
> > Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\gnus\pop3 ~/emacsdir\biff-mode
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> > Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\mail-lib\starttls d:/Program
> > Files/XEmacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mail-lib\smtpmail d:\Program
> > Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\mail-lib\smtpmail d:/Program
> > Files/XEmacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mail-lib\sendmail d:\Program
> > Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\mail-lib\sendmail d:/Program
> > Files/XEmacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mail-lib\rmailout d:\Program
> > Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\mail-lib\rmailout d:/Program
> > Files/XEmacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mail-lib\rmail-mini d:\Program
> > Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\mail-lib\rmail-mini d:/Program
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> > Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\mail-lib\rfc822 d:/Program
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> > Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\mail-lib\rfc2104 d:/Program
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> > Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\mail-lib\reporter d:/Program
> > Files/XEmacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mail-lib\pop3 d:\Program
> > Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\mail-lib\pop3 d:/Program
> > Files/XEmacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mail-lib\mailheader d:\Program
> > Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\mail-lib\mailheader d:/Program
> > Files/XEmacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mail-lib\mail-utils d:\Program
> > Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\mail-lib\mail-utils d:/Program
> > Files/XEmacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mail-lib\mail-extr d:\Program
> > Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\mail-lib\mail-extr d:/Program
> > Files/XEmacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mail-lib\mail-abbrevs d:\Program
> > Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\mail-lib\mail-abbrevs d:/Program
> > Files/XEmacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mail-lib\highlight-headers
> > d:\Program
> > Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\mail-lib\highlight-headers
> > d:/Program Files/XEmacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mail-lib\browse-url
> > d:\Program Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\mail-lib\browse-url
> > d:/Program
> > Files/XEmacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mail-lib\browse-url-xemacs
> > d:\Program
> > Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\mail-lib\browse-url-xemacs
> > d:/Program Files/XEmacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mail-lib\base64
> > d:\Program Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\mail-lib\base64
> > ~/emacsdir\metamail d:\Program
> > Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\net-utils\metamail
> > ~/emacsdir\postscript d:\Program
> > Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\prog-modes\postscript d:\Program
> > Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\ps-print\ps-print d:\Program
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> >
> >
> > Installed XEmacs Packages:
> > -------------------------
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> >
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> > --------
> >
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> > gnus-picon w3-forms w3-display w3-imap w3-widget css font w3-mouse
> > w3-vars w3-cus w3-keyword url mm mule-sysdp url-parse url-vars sort
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> > --
> > --------
> >     Peter Davis                               Pageflex Inc
> >     617-520-8345                          215 First Street
> >     617-868-4732 (FAX)                 Cambridge, MA 02142
> >     pdavis(a)pageflexinc.com      
http://www.pageflexinc.com
> >
> >
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      Peter Davis                               Pageflex Inc
      617-520-8345                          215 First Street
      617-868-4732 (FAX)                 Cambridge, MA 02142
      pdavis(a)pageflexinc.com      
http://www.pageflexinc.com