Re: Char-related crashes (hopefully) fixed

Kyle> Hrvoje Niksic writes: As much backward-compatibility as possible. I'm sorry I haven't made that clear. I was under the impression that this kind of thing was mostly gotten rid of by de-Ebola-ification. I was thinking that this might be a good time to push to get rid of it entirely, because any backward compatibility in this department is dangerous under Mule. Apparently this is not the time. Of course I don't speak for Ben on that. Kyle> Thank you, thank you, thank you. I was losing faith in my Kyle> fellow man. People support the project by writing XEmacs Kyle> specific code and then we thank them by breaking their code Kyle> in the name of 'modernization' or 'improvement'. Mule, by definition, breaks the kind of code we're discussing. XEmacs can make Mule go away, but I doubt anyone will thank us for that. Certainly Japanese, Chinese, Indians, et al won't. And probably not anybody, not 5 years from now, anyway. Kyle> Leave the old APIs alone! But we can't, without sacrificing Mule. The old APIs are simply not well-defined in the Mule environment. Admittedly, Mule being my most important XEmacs application, I would like those APIs, especially the implicit ones, to go away. But I'm not adamant. For preserving backward compatibility for well-behaved applications, I don't think the alternatives (to removal) I've proposed are objectionable. We do need to decide what it's going to be, and document it. One thing I want is to discourage developers from writing new code that will not do what they expect from it in the Mule environment. I would prefer that the int-char, char-int, and implicit variants not be used at all in new code. I guess that's impossible. If they must be used, I would strongly prefer that they signal errors if they're given things outside of the ASCII (or ISO-8859-1) domain. -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 __________________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________________ What are those two straight lines for? "Free software rules."