Re: That gutter again

Valdis> Urp. Gak. Gronk. Valdis> If toolbar-visible-p isn't the way to do it, why is that Valdis> what 'customize' scribbled into my .xemacs/init.el? Because customize reimplements specifier functionality. Then in the XEmacs version its low-level implementation touches the appropriate specifier after setting properties on the symbols customize uses. Customize is totally embarrassed at any explicit mention of specifiers because customize wants to be cross platform and the FSF doesn't have specifiers. Allegedly there are some things that customize wants to do that can't be implemented with specifiers. It's on my to-do list, but customize code is hard to understand. Customize is very like Mule in some ways.... Valdis> Sorry for the ranting, but.... Been there. -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 _________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ What are those straight lines for? "XEmacs rules."