efs on NT, beta-logo on NT with 21.1.2

Hi ! Excuse me that I send this questions to xemacs-beta and not to xemacs-nt, but the web-page says about xemacs-nt that it is intended for "porting developers only" - and this I'm certainly not. Instead I will write an article about the now non-beta 21 release, and one exciting feature is of course the Win32-port. Directly related is the first question: "non-beta", really ? When why does XEmacs 21.1.2 on NT greet me with the friendly BETA-logo that has been with us on Unix up to the "release" 21.0.67 ? Omission or intention ? The second question is related to the neverending efs-on-NT-problem: has it ended, finally ? Re-reading the xemacs-nt mailing-list archive I found that J.Harris patches should be in the current efs (and therefore in the efs-package in the current SUMO). However, efs simply hangs for me. I can neither connect to any xemacs-ftp-server/mirror nor to the local ftp-server (using ftp.exe from NT in cmd.exe works). It seems that the connect is made and then efs waits for somethings that it never gets. A third question: what about fakemail ? It seems to me that it is possible to build fakemail on NT, at least with cygwin. What about the native build ? Are there any plans or greater problems ? Any ideas ? Holger -- --- http://www.coling.uni-freiburg.de/~schauer/ --- "The only `intuitive' interface is the nipple. After that, it's all learned." -- Bruce Ediger