Re: [P21.5] Patches for Native Windows Builds

Hi all! [＠ Vin, Mike, Kai: I fixed my mail/network issues, a combination of shutting off the unencrypted POP3 server and an "update" to Mac OS X resulting in an MTU problem on wireless. Sorry for the dupe.] This is the most recent post in a series that was on XEmacs Patches. I thought it's probably of interest to a lot of XEmacs users on Windows, some of whom might be able to help or give advice. There's an excellent description of GNU Emacs's mingw/msys build system at http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/emacs/trunk/annotate/head:/nt/INSTALL If possible we should be compatible with that for obvious reasons, and for not so obvious reasons -- namely, Stallman is finally coming around on the issue of loadable modules. My understanding from the Python guys is that managing them is easy enough on *nix or Mac OS X because everybody agrees on ABIs on each platform, but it's a world of pain on Windows because of DLL hell compounded by at least three mutually incompatible ABIs: MSVC, mingw, and mingw64. (Don't take "ABI" too seriously, the issue is more which version of msvcrt.dll is used or something like that, but I just use ABI as an abbreviation.) The main thing missing from that documentation is the 32bit/64bit issue. My understanding from the Python discussion I mentioned elsewhere is that there are current two mingw projects: the dormant "mainline" mingw (implied -32) project, and the more active but more beta mingw64 project. I'm not sure which is preferred for GNU Emacs. "Somebody" should ask Eli Zaretskii <eliz(a)gnu.org&gt; about it. I'd do it (Eli and I go way back), but really somebody directly involved in the Windows dev work for XEmacs ought to get to know him, and I can't promise to get involved in that, I've got too much other stuff I've promised to do already. Glad to hear that! If you like I can put you in touch with Steve Dower at MSFT, who's helping the Python crew with their migration issues. Nope.:-) But with fresh blood interested in helping, something should get done in a reasonable time frame, I think! Steve _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta