Re: Is this the progress gauge ?

Karl> Maybe we should try explicitly building with xaw3d/nextaw, Karl> or whatever and see if it works then. We have, and it does. I have done it on Debian potato, Jan Vronnhof on RedHat (I believe), both with Xaw3d, and Daniel Pittman has done it on his system with neXtaw or whatever it's called. This is currently correctly done automatically on Debian "potato" systems by ./configure (XEmacs 21.2.25 and up), when invoked as ./configure ... --with-widgets=athena --with-athena=3d ... (or with `--with-athena=next' or whatever). In this case there is no ambiguity, because the linker insists on libXaw3d. AFAIK both Jan and Daniel used similar commands with success. This may be unacceptable for you as Debian maintainer, of course; it basically forces your "customers" to install xaw3d whether they want to or not. You can enforce that with a dependency, of course. But I think you should go take a look at http://www.best.com/~falconer/Widgets/#summary and try the various widget sets and decide which one you like best before enforcing such a dependency. Note that the Ed Falk widgets we use may or may not work with any given Athena clone (and probably don't). For personal use, Stefanie should test whether that works, if not, tell us (1) where the Xaw3d headers and libraries are installed (2) any aliases (eg, via symlinks) that point to them (3) whether this is a standard installation from a widespread distribution or a homebrew configuration (4) the output of 'ldconfig -p | fgrep -i xaw', and whether /etc/ld.so.conf is a standard installation or contains homebrew elements. (All linux-specific terms, I'm afraid, translate to the relevant OS. ;-) -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 _________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ What are those straight lines for? "XEmacs rules."