Re: hard and soft newlines

Uwe> 1. When I use a uh word processor (politically correct) Uwe> OO, then hitting return inserts a *real new line* which will Uwe> be printed. There's some chance that the wordprocessor is producing markup that it hides from you. That's why I hate wordprocessors. (That's why most people love them, too, but I digress....) Uwe> 2. When I hit return a newline is inserted and when I Uwe> use a text processor like TeX, this newline is ignored. Only Uwe> an empty line is interpreted as a newline This will be the case on many wikis as well. They use the "empty line" convention (same as TeX) to demarcate paragraphs. I don't know about wikipedia. Uwe> Now I thought: when I use use-hard-newlines Hitting return Uwe> would enter a new line in the sense of 1. But that seems to Uwe> be not correct. Where do you expect to see the newline? On the wiki, right? You need to find out what the wiki treats as a paragraph break and insert that. X?Emacs can't know until somebody (ie, you as the author/hacker of wiki-mode or whatever it is) tells it. Uwe> I thought newlines are hard in the sense of a word processor. They are. But only in an Emacs buffer. Other text processing programs, including browsers, wordprocessors, wikis, and TeX will treat them differently from Emacs, and differently from each other. -- School of Systems and Information Engineering http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.