Re: 21.5 modules and --srcdir

On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 23:29:11 +1000, Steve Youngs <youngs(a)xemacs.org&gt; said: This of course assumes that I know what set of packages I *really* want... (I'm playing devil's advocate here - there's nothing insurmountable here, just a lot of headaches that take time - something that's always lacking ;) To quote http://www.xemacs.org/Documentation/packageGuide.html " This is difficult to say. When in doubt, install a package. If you administrate a big site it might be a good idea to just install everything. A good minimal set of packages for XEmacs-latin1 would be As mentioned before, an overview of existing packages and their purpose may be found at ../Develop/packages.html and under the XEmacs source tree in etc/ PACKAGES. xemacs-base, xemacs-devel, c-support, cc-mode, debug, dired, efs, edit-utils, fsf-compat, mail-lib, net-utils, os-utils, prog-modes, text-modes, time Unfortunately the package system currently provides neither dependencies nor conflicts. This will be a future enhancement. The above set includes most packages that are used by others." Hmm.. dangling list for latin1.. ;) And if we don't do dependencies, what's this requires/provides entries in the package-index file? ;) Gnus requires w3, and w3 contains a require for emacspeak. Fortunately, it's protected by an (if (featurep 'emacspeak), and it's not listed as a 'requires' for w3 in the package-index. On the other hand, I don't see a listing for emacspeak in the package-index at all (yes, I know it's not in the Sumos either). But that's OK - it's an *optional* package and won't get sucked in unless I want that, and the target goal was to only have the subset of stuff that I want. Meanwhile, a little ad-crock grep/tr/wc magic shows 53 different things listed as 'requires' in package-index, and 1,237 'provides' listed. That's really confidence-inspiring - combined with the 'emacspeak' example above, it makes me not trust the 'requires' list provided. Yes, I know the provides are on the function level and the requires are packages - but now I get to worry whether the aggregation was done right. Some spot checking, and we find that mmm-mode requires xemacs-base and fsf-compat - but ibuffer requires *itself* and xemacs-base. Tramp requires itself, text-modes doesn't. (Yes, I understand why this is so - doesn't make it any less weird.. ;) Screw this, it's time to just install the Sumo and pray. Score one for software bloat. ;) /Valdis