is speed a concern?
5 years, 10 months
Julian Bradfield
Julian Bradfield
Another possibly silly question arising from perusal of the great Mule
merge...
Is speed (or small linear factors in memory) ever actually a concern
nowadays? The whole deal of supporting multiple internal buffer
formats seems to be justified by speed for multi-lingual processing,
and there are various tricky things scattered around the rest of the
code to improve speed.
The last time I can remember being disturbed by XEmacs' slowness was
sometime in the mid 90s when I was running Lucid Emacs 19 on a 68040.
(The days when a full compile was a go-out-for-long-dinner job rather than
a you-may-just-have-time-to-make-coffee job.)
On the other hand, I don't do extensive non-English processing.
Do people find XEmacs noticeably slow in any normal usage pattern?
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21.4.6 hangs on X11 clipboard on HP-UX 10.20
7 years, 1 month
Gary Beckmann
Gary Beckmann
Periodically, xemacs will "hang" (stop taking input, not refresh
screen). When killed, the back traces look like:
Lisp backtrace follows:
own-selection-internal(CLIPBOARD "\n" nil nil)
# bind (zmacs-region-stays data-type how-to-add type data)
own-selection("\n" CLIPBOARD)
# bind (push string)
own-clipboard("\n" t)
# bind (replace string)
kill-new("\n")
# bind (undo-high-threshold tail verbose end start)
kill-region(558 559)
# bind (entire-line arg)
kill-line-1(nil nil)
# bind (arg)
kill-line(nil)
# bind (command-debug-status)
call-interactively(kill-line)
# (condition-case ... . error)
# (catch top-level ...)
Lisp backtrace follows:
own-selection-internal(CLIPBOARD "xemacs-beta-request(a)xemacs.org" nil nil)
# bind (zmacs-region-stays data-type how-to-add type data)
own-selection("xemacs-beta-request(a)xemacs.org" CLIPBOARD)
# bind (push string)
own-clipboard("xemacs-beta-request(a)xemacs.org" t)
# bind (replace string)
kill-new("xemacs-beta-request(a)xemacs.org")
# bind (end start)
copy-region-as-kill(403374 403404)
# bind (end start)
kill-ring-save(403374 403404)
# bind (command-debug-status)
call-interactively(kill-ring-save)
# (condition-case ... . error)
# (catch top-level ...)
Lisp backtrace follows:
own-selection-internal(CLIPBOARD "xemacs-beta-request(a)xemacs.org" nil nil)
# bind (zmacs-region-stays data-type how-to-add type data)
own-selection("xemacs-beta-request(a)xemacs.org" CLIPBOARD)
# bind (push string)
own-clipboard("xemacs-beta-request(a)xemacs.org" t)
# bind (replace string)
kill-new("xemacs-beta-request(a)xemacs.org")
# bind (end start)
copy-region-as-kill(403374 403404)
# bind (end start)
kill-ring-save(403374 403404)
# bind (command-debug-status)
call-interactively(kill-ring-save)
# (condition-case ... . error)
# (catch top-level ...)
Lisp backtrace follows:
own-selection-internal(CLIPBOARD "src/" nil nil)
# bind (zmacs-region-stays data-type how-to-add type data)
own-selection("src/" CLIPBOARD)
# bind (push string)
own-clipboard("src/" t)
# bind (replace string)
kill-new("src/")
# bind (undo-high-threshold tail verbose end start)
kill-region(27 23)
# bind (count)
kill-word(-1)
# bind (count)
backward-kill-word(1)
# bi: gary＠rules[19] ; nd (command-debug-status)
call-interactively(backward-kill-word)
# (condition-case ... . error)
# (unwind-protect ...)
read-minibuffer-internal("Find file: ")
byte-code("..." [standard-output standard-input prompt recursion-depth minibuffer-depth t read-minibuffer-internal] 2)
# (catch exit ...)
# bind (mouse-grabbed-buffer current-prefix-arg minibuffer-history-variable minibuffer-history-position minibuffer-scroll-window)
# (unwind-protect ...)
# bind (minibuffer-default _history_ oconfig mconfig frame buffer window oframe owindow dir default abbrev-table history readp keymap initial-contents prompt)
read-from-minibuffer("Find file: " "~/cdev/RSAcore/dev/se/src/" #<keymap read-file-name-map size 2 0xd3c> nil file-name-history nil "~/cdev/RSAcore/dev/se/src/sePTVMgr.cxx")
# bind (minibuffer-completion-table minibuffer-completion-predicate minibuffer-completion-confirm last-exact-completion insert completer initial-contents must-match default dir prompt history)
read-file-name-2(file-name-history "Find file: " nil "~/cdev/RSAcore/dev/se/src/sePTVMgr.cxx" nil nil read-file-name-internal)
# bind (completer initial-contents must-match default dir prompt history type)
read-file-name-1(file file-name-history "Find file: " nil "~/cdev/RSAcore/dev/se/src/sePTVMgr.cxx" nil nil read-file-name-internal)
# bind (history initial-contents must-match default dir prompt)
read-file-name("Find file: " nil nil nil)
call-interactively(find-file)
# (condition-case ... . error)
# (catch top-level ...)
That's four of them. They all have in common the kill-new function.
Has anyone else seen this? Any ideas what I can try?
OS: HP-UX 10.20
compiled with HP's Ansi C compiler
Motif 1.2 (from HP).
gary
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RE: (SPF_HELO_SOFTFAIL) (SPF_SOFTFAIL) RE: qxe generation problem
7 years, 1 month
Benson Margulies
Benson Margulies
Sure.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Wing [mailto:ben＠xemacs.org]
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 7:22 AM
To: Benson Margulies
Cc: Stephen J. Turnbull; XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org
Subject: Re: (SPF_HELO_SOFTFAIL) (SPF_SOFTFAIL) RE: qxe generation
problem
Benson Margulies wrote:
> I successfully added --includedir of PlatformSDK/include, and ran it
> from a shell in cygwin. I didn't try to automate this for use in a
> Makefile or NMAKE file.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen J. Turnbull [mailto:stephen＠xemacs.org]
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 6:20 AM
> To: Benson Margulies
> Cc: Ben Wing; XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org
> Subject: qxe generation problem
>
> Benson Margulies writes:
>
> > The QXE generator assumes a directory structure that no longer
> applies
> > in VC7. The Win32 SDK files are no longer in the compiler include
> > directory. They are in the platform SDK. If all the files you want
> are
> > in Win32, then passing --includedir can do the job. Otherwise, more
> > complexity is called for.
>
> Ben (Wing), any comments? If you don't have upgraded code for VC7 to
> commit at this point, I'd like to tell Benson to do what he needs to
> do, and we can deal with the merge later.
>
>
Benson, this looks great. could you possibly fix up the NMAKE file
(nt/xemacs.mak)? Basically, add a HAVE_VC7 just like the existing
HAVE_VC6, and default it to 1. then modify the rule for
unicode-encapsulate so it's conditionalized appropriately:
something like
unicode-encapsulate:
cd $(SRC)
! if $(HAVE_VC7)
perl ../lib-src/make-mswin-unicode.pl --includedir
PlatformSDK/include --c-output intl-auto-encap-win32.c --h-output
intl-auto-encap-win32.h intl-encap-win32.c
! else
perl ../lib-src/make-mswin-unicode.pl --c-output
intl-auto-encap-win32.c --h-output intl-auto-encap-win32.h
intl-encap-win32.c
! endif
[mind the tab damage, etc]
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Why isn't packages/xemacs-packages/psgml/etc/cdtd in CVS?
7 years, 1 month
Stephen J. Turnbull
Stephen J. Turnbull
It seems that packages/xemacs-packages/psgml/etc/cdtd/.cvsignore _is_
in CVS, which causes cdtd to get created, but then after that I always
get a
move away xemacs-packages/psgml/etc/cdtd/.cvsignore; it is in the way
message.
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21.0 Showstoppers
7 years, 1 month
Ben Wing
Ben Wing
I've compiled a short list of bugs that I consider to be showstoppers
for the 21.0 release. It's located at:
http://devel.xemacs.org/xemacs/showstoppers.html
Ben (typed by Martin)
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[21.4,AC21.5] Metacity maximize bug localized
7 years, 1 month
Stephen J. Turnbull
Stephen J. Turnbull
APPROVE COMMIT
Ben thinks it's good enough, I've had no problems in a week.
>>>>> "sjt" == Stephen J Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
sjt> Vin, please note: For me this applies to 21.4 with offset -3,
sjt> but is NOT RECOMMENDED yet.
This is still true. A mostly offline discussion with Werner Fink of
SuSE encourages me (although his approach was quite different), but
I'm still not happy about applying it to stable, since geometry
management routines still call each other recursively (in what I think
are "safe" cases, no famous last words this time, please!), and that's
an Xt no-no.
Testers: please look for oddities in the borders. Dr. Fink observes
that truncation of the minibuffer line is a side effect of his patch,
so that's something to look for.
Index: src/ChangeLog
===================================================================
RCS file: /pack/xemacscvs/XEmacs/xemacs/src/ChangeLog,v
retrieving revision 1.761
diff -u -U0 -r1.761 ChangeLog
--- src/ChangeLog 7 Dec 2004 12:52:48 -0000 1.761
+++ src/ChangeLog 15 Dec 2004 03:57:02 -0000
＠＠ -0,0 +1,4 ＠＠
+2004-12-15 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org>
+
+ * EmacsManager.c (EmacsManagerChangeSize): Respect XtGeometryNo.
+
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#2:dired wrongly says no file on line with point
7 years, 2 months
Steven T. Hatton
Steven T. Hatton
This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team,
not to your local site managers!!
Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have
translators to read other languages for them.
Please describe as succinctly as possible:
- What happened.
- What you thought should have happened.
- Precisely what you were doing at the time.
Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have.
================================================================ Dear
Bug Team!
This is the second run of dired-report-bug. The last time my packages
were out of date. This report may provide more useful info. This may
also be of use:
Dired works for root:
ljosalfr:~ # locale
LANG=POSIX
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC="POSIX"
LC_TIME="POSIX"
LC_COLLATE="POSIX"
LC_MONETARY="POSIX"
LC_MESSAGES="POSIX"
LC_PAPER="POSIX"
LC_NAME="POSIX"
LC_ADDRESS="POSIX"
LC_TELEPHONE="POSIX"
LC_MEASUREMENT="POSIX"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="POSIX"
LC_ALL=
ljosalfr:~ #
But not for me:
hattons＠ljosalfr:/download/org/xemacs/
Mon Oct 21 05:58:11:> locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE=POSIX
LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=
hattons＠ljosalfr:/download/org/xemacs/
Mon Oct 21 05:58:17:>
This is a SuSE 8.1 box, and I really don't know what the locale setting does. I just use it because someone told me it would make all my stuff UTF-8 compliant.... sort of. Linux MUST move to UTF-8, and if this is part of the pain in doing so, so be it.
================================================================
System Info to help track down your bug:
---------------------------------------
uname -a: Linux ljosalfr 2.4.19-4GB #1 Fri Sep 13 13:14:56 UTC 2002 i686 unknown
configure '--with-clash-detection' '--with-mule' '--with-xfs' '--pdump' '--with-pop' '--with-dialogs=athena' '--with-widgets=athena' '--prefix=/home/hattons/opt' '--site-libraries=/usr/X11/lib/Xaw3d'
XEmacs 21.5-b9 "brussels sprouts" (+CVS-20021020) configured for `i686-pc-linux'.
Compilation / Installation:
Source code location: /download/org/xemacs/xemacs-HEAD
Installation prefix: /home/hattons/opt
Additional libraries: /usr/X11/lib/Xaw3d
Operating system description file: `s/linux.h'
Machine description file: `m/intel386.h'
Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow
Relocating allocator for buffers: no
GNU version of malloc: yes
- Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library.
Window System:
Compiling in support for the X window system:
- X Windows headers location: /usr/X11/include
- X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11/lib
- Handling WM_COMMAND properly.
Compiling in support for the Athena widget set:
- Athena headers location: X11/Xaw
- Athena library to link: Xaw
Using Lucid menubars.
Using Lucid scrollbars.
Using Athena dialog boxes.
Using Athena native widgets.
TTY:
Compiling in support for ncurses.
Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse).
Images:
Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin).
Compiling in support for XPM images.
Compiling in support for PNG images.
Compiling in support for JPEG images.
Compiling in support for TIFF images.
Sound:
Compiling in support for sound (native).
Compiling in support for ESD (Enlightened Sound Daemon).
Databases:
Compiling in support for Berkeley database.
Compiling in support for GNU DBM.
Internationalization:
Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs).
Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method).
- Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support.
- Using XFontSet to provide bilingual menubar.
Mail:
Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval.
Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method.
Other Features:
Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup.
Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules.
Using the new portable dumper.
Compiling in support for extra debugging code.
WARNING: ---------------------------------------------------------
WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime error checking.
WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result.
WARNING: Error checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases.
WARNING: ---------------------------------------------------------
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Warning: Error in loading package file "/home/hattons/opt/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/viper/auto-autoloads": Already loaded
Backtrace follows:
signal(error ("Already loaded"))
# bind (args datum)
cerror("Already loaded")
apply(cerror "Already loaded" nil)
# bind (args datum)
error("Already loaded")
byte-code("..." [featurep viper-autoloads error "Already loaded" package-provide viper :version 1.35 :type regular] 6)
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# (unwind-protect ...)
# (unwind-protect ...)
# (unwind-protect ...)
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load("/home/hattons/opt/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/viper/auto-autoloads" t)
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tatus filenames found package-get-remote this-requires temp-bu!
ffer package-get-base search-dirs conflict status package-admin-temp-buffer package-get-remove-copy switch-to-buffer delete-file] 6)
# (catch skip-update ...)
# bind (install-dir conflict version package)
package-get(viper nil nil nil)
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#<compiled-function (pkg) "...(14)" [pui-package-install-dest-dir pkg package-get nil throw done] 5>(viper)
mapcar(#<compiled-function (pkg) "...(14)" [pui-package-install-dest-dir pkg package-get nil throw done] 5> (calendar debug ecrypto ediff gnus idlwave jde liece locale lookup mail-lib prog-modes skk xemacs-base w3 viper))
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call-interactively(pui-install-selected-packages)
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# (catch top-level ...)
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Installing package `viper' ...
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- 1 comments
Re: Commenting out code in lisp
7 years, 2 months
Adrian Aichner
Adrian Aichner
>>>>> "Paul" == Paul Krause <paulkrause1(a)mediaone.net> writes:
Paul> Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org> writes:
>> >> Do we want to make C-u M-x comment-region smarter?
>>
Paul> No! Make indentation smarter. If a comment begins in column
Paul> 1, don't
Paul> indent it when reindenting a region. This solves the
Paul> problem without
Paul> style-changes or hacks to comment-region.
>>
Paul> Have I overlooked anything?
>>
>> This, maybe?
>>
>> (Info-goto-node "(xemacs)Comments")
>>
>> Adrian
Paul> Could you be a little more specific? I don't what you're
Paul> referring to. Maybe this?
Paul> You can also use `Meta-;' to align an existing comment. If a line
Paul> already contains the string that starts comments, `M-;' just moves
Paul> point after it and re-indents it to the conventional place.
Paul> Exception:
Paul> comments starting in column 0 are not moved.
Yes, that, and also the following paragraph.
Some major modes have special rules for indenting certain kinds of
comments in certain contexts. For example, in Lisp code, comments which
start with two semicolons are indented as if they were lines of code,
instead of at the comment column. Comments which start with three
semicolons are supposed to start at the left margin. Emacs understands
these conventions by indenting a double-semicolon comment using TAB and
by not changing the indentation of a triple-semicolon comment at all.
You have a valid point, though.
single-; comments srarting in column 0 should not be moved and
comment-region would work as advertised!
You opened my eyes!
To All:
Isn't this what we should do?
Martin?
Stephen?
Best regards,
Adrian
Paul> The trouble is, it doesn't work as documented. Here's a sample.
Paul> ;;; header comment
Paul> ;; This function is just an example.
Paul> ;;; Here either two or three semicolons are appropriate.
Paul> (defun foo (x)
Paul> ;;; And now, the first part of the function:
Paul> (lambda (foo bar)
Paul> (if (foo bar)
Paul> 'bif
Paul> 'baz))
Paul> ;; The following line adds one.
Paul> (1+ x)) ; This line adds one.
Paul> ;; This function is just an example.
Paul> ;;; Here either two or three semicolons are appropriate.
Paul> (defun foo (x)
Paul> ;;; And now, the first part of the function:
Paul> ;; The following sexp is commented out using comment-region.
Paul> ; (lambda (foo bar)
Paul> ; (if (foo bar)
Paul> ; 'bif
Paul> ; 'baz))
Paul> ;; The following line adds one.
Paul> (1+ x)) ; This line adds one.
Paul> I get the same indentation using either M-; or C-M-q.
Paul> Testing using xemacs -vanilla on
Paul> XEmacs 21.2 (beta37) "Pan" (win32) of Sun Dec 03 2000 on PAULKRAUSE
Paul> as well as
Paul> XEmacs 21.0 "20 minutes to Nikko" (win32) of Fri Mar 26 1999 on
Paul> BLACKBIRD
Paul> (which I just happen to have lying around)
--
Adrian Aichner
mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org
http://www.xemacs.org/
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- 3 comments
Re: nil has a plist, of course.
7 years, 2 months
Sebastian Freundt
Sebastian Freundt
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"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
> Aidan Kehoe writes:
>
> > And on two non-vanilla invocations of mine it’s non-nil. These seem like
> > bugs:
>
> Easy to reproduce:
>
> (with-temp-buffer ;; let's not be visting a file
> (defcustom junk nil "junk custom")
> (assq 'junk (cadr (object-plist nil))))
> => (junk custom-variable)
>
> Easy to prevent:
>
> (with-temp-buffer
> (defgroup trash-group nil "just for laughs")
> (defcustom trash nil "trash custom")
> (cons (assq 'trash (cadr (object-plist nil)))
> (assq 'trash (cadr (object-plist 'trash-group)))))
> => (nil trash custom-variable)
>
> Question: Should we *require* that customizations be in a group (ie,
> defcustom barfs if there's no :group argument and (custom-current-group)
> is nil)? Or should we force `custom-current-group' to return something
> global like 'xemacs rather than nil? Or should we allow anti-social
> customizations, that avoid all groups?
>
> I think option 2 is probably safest and least invasive, although the
> pedant in me hankers after option 1. Option 3 strikes me as rather
> risky given the general fragility of customize.
How about a mild mixture between 2 and 1? Instead of barfing I think about
a warning or something.
Sebastian
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Patch problem: xemacs-21.5.11-21.5.12-patch.gz
7 years, 3 months
Solignac
Solignac
Hello everybody,
I tried to update my xemacs-21.5.11 tree to 21.5.12 with the diff file
found in ftp mirrors, but all attempts failed (patch said "patch: ****
malformed patch at line 315").
I tried to skip several parts of the diff file without success (the main
problem ends in the part of "configure", which could not be skipped).
Did anyone encoutered the same problem? Could it be possible to re-generate
the patch file?
\bye
S.
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MAKING MILHOUSE CRY IS NOT A SCIENCE PROJECT.
MAKING MILHOUSE CRY IS NOT A SCIENCE PROJECT.
MAKING MILHOUSE CRY IS NOT A SCIENCE PROJECT.
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