David Kastrup mentions on a thread on emacs-devel(a)gnu.org that My reaction was similar; I was used to find . -type f -exec grep -nH whatever {} \; in the shell and the word order of M-x grep-find RET seemed totally alien. So, yeah, the alias is worth adding. xemacs-packages/xemacs-base/ChangeLog addition: 2005-02-26 Aidan Kehoe <kehoea(a)parhasard.net&gt; * compile.el (find-grep): Alias it to grep-find--if you're used to the shell, find and _then_ grep is the word order that springs to mind. XEmacs Packages source patch: Diff command: cvs -q diff -u Files affected: xemacs-packages/xemacs-base/compile.el Index: xemacs-packages/xemacs-base/compile.el =================================================================== RCS file: /pack/xemacscvs/XEmacs/packages/xemacs-packages/xemacs-base/compile.el,v retrieving revision 1.32 diff -u -u -r1.32 compile.el --- xemacs-packages/xemacs-base/compile.el 2004/06/28 20:19:43 1.32 +++ xemacs-packages/xemacs-base/compile.el 2005/02/26 15:57:26 ＠＠ -768,6 +768,9 ＠＠ (let ((grep-null-device nil)) ; see grep (grep command-args))) +;; XEmacs addition +(defalias find-grep grep-find) + ;; XEmacs addition: all grep-all-files stuff (defun construct-grep-all-files-command (find-segment grep-segment) -- “I, for instance, am gung-ho about open source because my family is being held hostage in Rob Malda’s basement. But who fact-checks me, or Enderle, when we say something in public? No-one!” -- Danny O’Brien