Dear xemacs.org, dear Gnu.org, today, I sent a lengthy bug reprt, which follows at the end of this email, to KDE.org. Since this bug report discusses some inconsistencies of Xemacs and Emacs under KDE, it should be of interest for you. With best regards Ernst Joachim Weniger #-------------------------------------------------------| | PD Dr. Ernst Joachim Weniger | | Institut für Physikalische und Theoretische Chemie | | Universität Regensburg | | D-93040 Regensburg, Germany | | Tel: +49 (0)941-943-4722 | | Fax: +49 (0)941-943-4719 | | Email: Joachim.Weniger(a)chemie.uni-regensburg.de | | Private Phone: +49 {0)89-647377 | #-------------------------------------------------------| 15 September 2005 PD Dr. Ernst Joachim Weniger Institut für Physikalische und Theoretische Chemie Universität Regensburg D-93040 Regensburg Germany KDE BUG REPORT ON KDEDESKTOP VERSION 3.4.0m =========================================== Since 1000, I have been using various releases of Suse Linux, and I have also been a happy user of the corresponding releases of the KDE desktop environment which were part of the Suse Linux distribution. Unfortunately, this changed when I recently bought a new PC and installed Suse Linux 9.3: I observed some strange behavior in connection with the editors Xemacs and Emacs. This had not occurred in the earlier versions of KDE which I had used. It should be of interest for you that I observed the correct behavior of Xemacs and Emacs when I use the Gnome desktop environment. So, it is a relatively obvious conclusions that the inconsistencies of Xemacs and Emacs must be due KDE. However, I of course cannot rule out the possibility that Suse did something wrong when they generated the KDE binaries which I had used in the installation process. First, I will describe the problems which I encountered. After that, I will describe in detail my system configuration and the software as well as the configuration files of Xemacs and Emacs. In my file ~/.Xresources, there occurs the line XEmacs.geometry: 126x62+0+0 which governs the location of Xemacs on my screen. According to theory, the Xemacs frome should then appear at a defined location with a defined height and width. However, when I start Xemacs under KDE, only the location is correct. The Xemacs frame first expands to the correct size, but then it shrinks to a relatively small rectangle of correct height, but substantially smaller width. Irritatingly, however, in some rare cases it expands again after shrinking to produce an Xemacs from of the correct size. I was not able to detect any pattern which could explain why I sometimes get a frame with a correct geometry. Accordingly, in most cases (at least 9 out of 10) I have to set the geometry of the Xemacs frame manually. When I start Xemacs under Gnome, I always get the correct geometry. When working with Xemacs, I normally can mark a region with the left mouse button. This marked region is copied to the kill ring and I should be able to paste this region to a different location in the file via the middle mouse button. However, in my case, the operation produces the correct result only if the kill ring had been empty. Accordingly, after marking a region with the left mouse button, I have to explicitly give a command like Alt-w in order to copy the marked region into the kill ring. After that, pasting via the middle mouse button works. Obviously, this is a very annoying behavior. When I start Xemacs under Gnome, cutting and pasting with the mouse works as it should. Moreover, cutting and pasting with the mouse works as it should when I start Emacs under KDE as well as under Gnome. My file ~/.Xresources also contains the statement Emacs.geometry: 78x44+0+0 which governs the geometry of the Emacs frame. Here, everything works fine, both under KDE and Gnome. However, when I start Emacs under KDE, I have another problem: Normally, it is possible to mark a region in a different console of the desktop via the left mouse button and to copy it to the file in my Emacs frame by pressing the left mouse button. Unfortunately, this cut-and-paste operation does not work in Emacs under KDE. It does, however, work correctly in Emacs under Gnome, as well as in Xemacs, both under KDE and Gnome. I use a Fujitsu-Siemens Scenic W 620 PC with an Intel Pentium IV chip. My operating system is Suse 9.3 Linux (the most recent version of Suse Linux). In addition, I use a Fujitsu-Siemens ScenicView P19-2 LCD screen with a 19 " diagonal and a maximum resolution of 1280 x 1024. The problems described above occur under the kdedesktop version 3.4.0m which was created by the gcc compiler version 3.3.5 20050117 (prerelease) (Suse Linux). My operating system is Linux (i638) release 2.6.11.4-21.9-smp. I use the following version of Xemacs: I use the following version of Emacs: For Xemacs, I am using the configuraion files ~/.xemacs/custom.el and ~/.xemacs/init.el In ~/.xemacs/init.el, the files ~/.xemacs/Latex.MACS and ~/.xemacs/Auctex.EJW are called. For Emacs, I use the configuration file ~/.ejw_custom This configuration file for Emacs also calles the configuration files ~/.xemacs/Auctex.EJW and ~/.xemacs/Latex.MACS, which are also used in Xemacs. Yours sincerely Ernst Joachim Weniger #-------------------------------------------------------| | PD Dr. Ernst Joachim Weniger | | Institut für Physikalische und Theoretische Chemie | | Universität Regensburg | | D-93040 Regensburg, Germany | | Tel: +49 (0)941-943-4722 | | Fax: +49 (0)941-943-4719 | | Email: Joachim.Weniger(a)chemie.uni-regensburg.de | #-------------------------------------------------------|