================================================================ Dear Bug Team! As requested by Stephen in the "What is the status of 21.5?" thread on xemacs-beta, here is a skeleton bug report. Because of the complexity of the problem, it's not possible with small effort to produce minimal reproducible examples. Basically use of VM (version 7.19 in my case) is severely impaired under 21.5, for the following reasons: 1) There is highly visible reconfiguation of windows during some VM operations. (Typical VM frame has a summary window at the top, and a message window at the bottom. Under 21.5, these windows sometimes disappear from the display and then reappear, when under 21.4 this doesn't happen.) 2) The position of point in the VM summary buffer/window does not behave. Some operations appear to move point in the window when it's not expected, resulting in, e.g., the wrong message being deleted when you hit 'd' expecting to delete the next message. When I have time, I'll try to produce concrete examples. ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux xenbuilder2.fedora.redhat.com 2.6.20-1.2952.fc6xen #1 SMP Wed May 16 18:37:05 EDT 2007 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux ./configure '--build=i686-redhat-linux-gnu' '--host=i686-redhat-linux-gnu' '--target=i386-redhat-linux-gnu' '--program-prefix=' '--prefix=/usr' '--exec-prefix=/usr' '--bindir=/usr/bin' '--sbindir=/usr/sbin' '--sysconfdir=/etc' '--datadir=/usr/share' '--includedir=/usr/include' '--libdir=/usr/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/libexec' '--localstatedir=/var' '--sharedstatedir=/usr/com' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man/man1' '--with-archlibdir=/usr/lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/i686-redhat-linux' '--with-moduledir=/usr/lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/i686-redhat-linux/modules' '--with-lispdir=/usr/share/xemacs-21.5-b28/lisp' '--with-etcdir=/usr/share/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc' '--with-system-packages=/usr/share/xemacs' '--without-msw' '--with-mule' '--with-clash-detection' '--with-database=no' '--without-ldap' '--without-postgresql' '--with-mail-locking=lockf' '--with-pop' '--without-hesiod' '--with-pdump' '--with-debug' '--with-error-checking=none' '--with-docdir=/usr! /lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/doc' '--with-xfs' '--with-athena=next' '--with-menubars=lucid' '--with-widgets=athena' '--with-dialogs=athena' '--with-scrollbars=lucid' '--with-xim=xlib' '--without-wnn' 'CFLAGS=-O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=generic -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -fno-strict-aliasing' 'build_alias=i686-redhat-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=i686-redhat-linux-gnu' 'target_alias=i386-redhat-linux-gnu' XEmacs 21.5-b28 "fuki" configured for `i686-redhat-linux'. Compilation Environment and Installation Defaults: Source code location: /builddir/build/BUILD/xemacs-21.5.28 Installation prefix: /usr Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler version: gcc (GCC) 4.1.2 20070626 (Red Hat 4.1.2-13) - GCC specs file: specs. - Compiler command: gcc -Wall -Wno-switch -Wundef -Wsign-compare -Wno-char-subscripts -Wpacked -Wunused-parameter -g -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=generic -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -fno-strict-aliasing libc version: glibc-2.5-10.fc6 Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: - X Windows libraries location: - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: - Athena headers location: X11/neXtaw - Athena library to link: neXtaw Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Using Athena native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Compiling in support for ALSA (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture). Databases: Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. - Using XFontSet to provide bilingual menubar. Compiling in support for Canna on Mule. Mail: Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. Compiling in support for "lockf" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new GC mark algorithms (KKCC). WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: The new algorithms are experimental. They are enabled by WARNING: default for this release. Use `--disable-kkcc' to WARNING: turn it off. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- Using the new portable dumper. Dumping into executable. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. 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