Ben> Jan Vroonhof wrote: Ben> explain? s/transpart/transparent/, I think. The current 'cool Linux GUI setup' du jour requires (a) some kind of instant messaging client (AIM, ICQ, or IRC for the old school), (b) an mp3 player and (c) xterms with 'transparent' backgrounds -- an effect that is achieved by using a graphics lib to do a screen grab of the area the term is covering, and then using that grab for the background. Wow, that's confusing. Just have a look at <URL:http://genehack.org/Images/eyeCandy.jpg>;. You can currently get most of the desired effect by running -nw in such a term, I believe. In order to really be attractive, I think Jan's suggestion would need to be accompanied by a mp3 player mode, and the inclusion of one or more of the IM/chat modes in the standard tarball. john. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ John S Jacobs Anderson \ <URL:http://www.xemacs.org> You'll have to pry my Emacs from my cold \ jacobs(a)xemacs.org dead oversized control-pressing left pinky finger. -- Randal L. Schwartz