3:41 p.m.
hi glynn,
Glynn Clements wrote:
Darin Perusich wrote:
> i'll give these a try but i'm not performing a cut and paste, i'm just
> delete a region of text.
Yep; that comes under "cut" (or "kill", in Emacs terminology).
Most of XEmacs' "deletion" operations (e.g. C-w, C-k) save the deleted
text on the kill-ring (similar to a clipboard, but it keeps a history
of previous values, not just the last value).
thanks for clarifying this.
i'm working with an engineer at sun microsystems on this he is seeing this.
"I did play with this a bit and found that acroread is doing something
with the GDK_SELECTION property and xemacs is also looking at this
property. I used truss -ulibX11: -p <pid> to see what X11 calls are
being made and saw both acroread and xemacs busy doing something. Then,
using the man pages for XGetWindowProperty() the third argument is the
property atom. xlsatoms lists this as GDK_SELECTION."
i've trussed the process myself and can provide them and cores when
xemacs crashes if this would be helpful.
i've also built xemacs 21.4.19 without Motif and with GCC and i'm unable
to recreate this issue. i'm going to build with suns compiler to see
what happens. though now when i compile in MULE support without motif
the gui crashes but that's another issue.
thanks.
Installation:
uname -a: SunOS ra 5.8 Generic_117350-28 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Blade-1000
./configure '--prefix=/opt/csw/xemacs' '--site-prefixes=/opt/csw'
'--with-sound=native,nonas,noesd' '--with-ldap=no'
'--with-postgresql=no' '--with-database=dbm' '--with-ncurses'
'--with-widgets=athena' '--with-dialogs=athena'
XEmacs 21.4.19 "Constant Variable" configured for `sparc-sun-solaris2.8'.
Compilation / Installation:
Source code location:
/export/home/darin/build/xemacs-21.4.19
Installation prefix: /opt/csw/xemacs
Additional prefixes: /opt/csw
Runtime library search path:
/opt/csw/lib:/usr/ccs/lib:/opt/csw/gcc3/lib/gcc/sparc-sun-solaris2.8/3.4.4/../../..
Operating system description file: `s/sol2.h'
Machine description file: `m/sparc.h'
Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch
-Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -fno-strict-aliasing
-Wshadow -Wpointer-arith
Compiler version: gcc (GCC) 3.4.4
Compiler specs file:
/opt/csw/gcc3/lib/gcc/sparc-sun-solaris2.8/3.4.4/specs
Relocating allocator for buffers: yes
GNU version of malloc: yes
libc: SUNWcsl 11.8.0,REV=2000.01.08.18.12
Window System:
Compiling in support for the X window system:
- X Windows headers location:
- X Windows libraries location:
- Xau (X authority) not available.
- Handling WM_COMMAND properly.
Compiling in support for the Athena widget set:
- Athena headers location: X11/Xaw
- Athena library to link: Xaw
Using Lucid menubars.
Using Lucid scrollbars.
Using Athena dialog boxes.
Using Athena native widgets.
TTY:
Compiling in support for ncurses.
Images:
Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin).
Compiling in support for XPM images.
Compiling in support for PNG images.
Compiling in support for JPEG images.
Compiling in support for TIFF images.
Sound:
Compiling in support for sound (native).
Databases:
Compiling in support for DBM.
Internationalization:
Mail:
Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method.
Other Features:
Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup.
Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules.
--
Darin Perusich
Unix Systems Administrator
Cognigen Corp.
darinper(a)cognigencorp.com
8:49 p.m.
New subject: [Bug: 21.4.17] Xemacs and Acroread lockup issue
On 2/8/06, Darin Perusich <Darin.Perusich(a)cognigencorp.com> wrote:
i've also built xemacs 21.4.19 without Motif and with GCC and i'm unable
to recreate this issue. i'm going to build with suns compiler to see
what happens. though now when i compile in MULE support without motif
the gui crashes but that's another issue.
in my experience building on Solaris (it's been about 6 months), you
need to specify '--without-xim' to configure.
HTH,
Vin
10:37 p.m.
New subject: [Bug: 21.4.17] Xemacs and Acroread lockup issue
Vin Shelton <acs <at> xemacs.org> writes:
in my experience building on Solaris (it's been about 6 months), you
need to specify '--without-xim' to configure.
HTH,
Vin
Hi Vin:
Well, not from my experience, but I don't use XIM. For a successful build
report with XIM, see the recent thread
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta/22033
By the way, according to Darin's build report, he is not using mule so it
does not appear that XIM was configured.
Rodney
1:17 a.m.
New subject: [Bug: 21.4.17] Xemacs and Acroread lockup issue
>>>> "Rodney" == Rodney Sparapani
<rsparapa(a)mcw.edu> writes:
Rodney> By the way, according to Darin's build report, he is not
Rodney> using mule so it does not appear that XIM was configured.
Not in the build report, true, but he commented that he also tried a
MULE build, and that's what Vin was responding to.
To clarify the issue, for several years --with-xim=xlib caused crashes
on several platforms, so on Motif-ly platforms (SunOS, Solaris, maybe
HP/UX?) --with-xim=motif was forced. This generally didn't matter at
that time because people almost always wanted Motif on those platforms
for consistent look and feel, but it was a latent bug.
As Athena improved and other toolkits became more usable, they _were_
used, and this behavior of configure caused --with-mule to pull in XIM
if available, on those platforms it defaults to --with-xim=motif,
which pulled in all of the basic Motif stuff as well as any other
toolkit that was specified, with the predictable results of hilarity
and confusion. A good time was had by all! Or something like that.
I'm sorry about this; I've been aware of it for a couple years, and
have made desultory efforts at improvement. But every time we
refactor the Athena detection, this stuff gets confused, and we've
never managed to get it to where it reliably produces sane results.
*sigh*
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12:55 p.m.
New subject: [Bug: 21.4.17] Xemacs and Acroread lockup issue
Vin Shelton wrote:
in my experience building on Solaris (it's been about 6 months), you
need to specify '--without-xim' to configure.
Thanks Vin! This was the cure to getting MULE working without motif.
--
Darin Perusich
Unix Systems Administrator
Cognigen Corp.
darinper(a)cognigencorp.com
2:44 p.m.
New subject: [Bug: 21.4.17] Xemacs and Acroread lockup issue
Darin Perusich <Darin.Perusich <at> cognigencorp.com> writes:
Thanks Vin! This was the cure to getting MULE working without motif.
What?!? I don't get this. XEmacs definitely works here with Motif.
Are you sure you are using Motif? I can confirm that it does not work
with Lesstif, at least not the version of Lesstif that comes on the
Companion CD. I bet what is coming next is someone who says that it does
work with Lesstif :o)
Rodney
3:54 p.m.
New subject: [Bug: 21.4.17] Xemacs and Acroread lockup issue
Hi Rodney,
On 2/14/06, Rodney Sparapani <rsparapa(a)mcw.edu> wrote:
Darin Perusich <Darin.Perusich <at> cognigencorp.com>
writes:
> Thanks Vin! This was the cure to getting MULE working without motif.
What?!? I don't get this. XEmacs definitely works here with Motif.
Nonetheless, it's true in my experience that building MULE on my
Solaris systems at my old job didn't work unless I configured
'--without-xim' or whatever the incantation of the day was. (I gather
from Stephen's email that I could have specified '--with-xim=xlib',
but I don't think I ever tried that.)
According to the PROBLEMS file, the following patches may fix up Motif
on Solaris:
107081-40 107656-07
108940-33 108652-25
Those are for Solaris 2.7 and 2.8, respectively. I was a lowly user
on the Sparc Solaris systems I used to have access to and I had no
control over what patches were applied to the systems, so I took the
expedient approach of disabling xim.
- Vin
4:06 p.m.
New subject: [Bug: 21.4.17] Xemacs and Acroread lockup issue
Vin Shelton wrote:
Hi Rodney,
Nonetheless, it's true in my experience that building MULE on my
Solaris systems at my old job didn't work unless I configured
'--without-xim' or whatever the incantation of the day was. (I gather
from Stephen's email that I could have specified '--with-xim=xlib',
but I don't think I ever tried that.)
According to the PROBLEMS file, the following patches may fix up Motif
on Solaris:
107081-40 107656-07
108940-33 108652-25
Those are for Solaris 2.7 and 2.8, respectively. I was a lowly user
on the Sparc Solaris systems I used to have access to and I had no
control over what patches were applied to the systems, so I took the
expedient approach of disabling xim.
- Vin
Hi Vin:
Good point. Definitely make sure that you have all of your Motif patches.
However, there is still one bug that I could never find a patch for which I
assume is Motif or CDE related:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta/16385
If I run the same Motif XEmacs under GNOME, then this bug never occurs!?!
Rodney
5:46 p.m.
New subject: [Bug: 21.4.17] Xemacs and Acroread lockup issue
hi rodney,
Rodney Sparapani wrote:
>Thanks Vin! This was the cure to getting MULE working without
motif.
What?!? I don't get this. XEmacs definitely works here with Motif.
Are you sure you are using Motif? I can confirm that it does not work
with Lesstif, at least not the version of Lesstif that comes on the
Companion CD. I bet what is coming next is someone who says that it does
work with Lesstif :o)
when i was building with "--with-widgets=athena --with-dialogs=athena
--with-mule" XEmacs would crash everytime unless i specified
"--without-xim", specifying "--with-xim=xlib" with the above options
also crashed.
i was trying to get it built without motif.
--
Darin Perusich
Unix Systems Administrator
Cognigen Corp.
darinper(a)cognigencorp.com
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