5:43 a.m.
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008, Mike Kupfer wrote:
>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Connors
<tconnors(a)astro.swin.edu.au> writes:
Tim> so that when I open a file in ~/thesis/..., it goes to
Tim> <directory>/thesis/....
Do you already have a ~/thesis? If not, just make it a symbolic link
pointing at <directory>/thesis. (If you're using Windows, doesn't it
have some sort of shortcut thingie that works like symbolic links?)
It's more that I'm being overly complicated and want some way of forcing
the xemacs process on one machine (machine 1) to use one filesystem,
except for when it is invoked by the gnuclient process on another machine
(machine 2; I don't want to just run the xemacs process on machine 2,
because machine 2 is maintained by central ITS who are useless
morons^W^Wrun several year old unmaintained versions of linux). Since a
wrapper around gnuclient pointing back to machine 1 is my $EDITOR of
choice on machine 2, I can't just put a symlink in for ~/thesis on machine
1, because sometimes I really do want to edit other files on machine 2.
Probably more of an ill thought-out idea than something worth persuing.
Never mind me :)
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New subject: resetting xemacs' idea of home directory
On 4/27/08, Tim Connors <tconnors(a)astro.swin.edu.au> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008, Mike Kupfer wrote:
It's more that I'm being overly complicated and want some way
of forcing
the xemacs process on one machine (machine 1) to use one filesystem,
except for when it is invoked by the gnuclient process on another machine
(machine 2; I don't want to just run the xemacs process on machine 2,
because machine 2 is maintained by central ITS who are useless
morons^W^Wrun several year old unmaintained versions of linux). Since a
wrapper around gnuclient pointing back to machine 1 is my $EDITOR of
choice on machine 2, I can't just put a symlink in for ~/thesis on machine
1, because sometimes I really do want to edit other files on machine 2.
Probably more of an ill thought-out idea than something worth persuing.
Never mind me :)
No, it actually bears some thought now. I face similar Linux braindamage
issues at work. We could always assume in the past that a Linux user was
free to change/fix his environment and that isn't true any more.
-sb
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New subject: resetting xemacs' idea of home directory
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008, SL Baur wrote:
On 4/27/08, Tim Connors <tconnors(a)astro.swin.edu.au> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008, Mike Kupfer wrote:
> It's more that I'm being overly complicated and want some way of forcing
> the xemacs process on one machine (machine 1) to use one filesystem,
> except for when it is invoked by the gnuclient process on another machine
> (machine 2; I don't want to just run the xemacs process on machine 2,
> because machine 2 is maintained by central ITS who are useless
> morons^W^Wrun several year old unmaintained versions of linux). Since a
> wrapper around gnuclient pointing back to machine 1 is my $EDITOR of
> choice on machine 2, I can't just put a symlink in for ~/thesis on machine
> 1, because sometimes I really do want to edit other files on machine 2.
>
> Probably more of an ill thought-out idea than something worth persuing.
> Never mind me :)
No, it actually bears some thought now. I face similar Linux braindamage
Perhaps if gnuclient could accept a flag to tell it to tell emacs to
operate on a file on the remote's filesystem, with the requisite
bidirectional communications this would require (yay! Yet another
protocol!), and the lack of an ability to use ange-ftp and tramp syntax
(since the user is explicitly asking for a file on the remote's local
filesystem, I see no harm in barring them from using tramp/ange-ftp
syntax).
issues at work. We could always assume in the past that a Linux user
was
free to change/fix his environment and that isn't true any more.
It's always been the case :) I had a 3 meg quota on $HOME, and 3Meg in
/tmp in undergrad CS in 2000. Almost the third freaking millenium, and
still only 3Meg!
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New subject: resetting xemacs' idea of home directory
SL Baur writes:
On 4/27/08, Tim Connors <tconnors(a)astro.swin.edu.au> wrote:
> It's more that I'm being overly complicated and want
some way of forcing
> the xemacs process on one machine (machine 1) to use one filesystem,
> except for when it is invoked by the gnuclient process on another machine
No, it actually bears some thought now. I face similar Linux
braindamage
issues at work. We could always assume in the past that a Linux user was
free to change/fix his environment and that isn't true any more.
Well, this has nothing to do with Linux, and has been an issue for me
for quite a while.
We have several packages that have a notion of "project" (Didier's
patcher, AUCTeX with its "master files", I had a proof-of-concept
application of the tab control widgets that grouped files more
sensibly than the default does; surely the CEDET/ECB family of
packages does, too). Maybe we should abstract something of that,
combined with something a little more Lisp-y than Matthew's idea of an
environment variable with a short convenient name.
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New subject: resetting xemacs' idea of home directory
There must be some aspect of your situation that I'm missing. Do you
have a common (NFS-mounted) home directory on machines 1 and 2? My home
directory at work is littered with symlinks pointing at random
partitions on various NFS servers; it works fine. Granted, I use
/net/<server> syntax, and I'm not sure how well the Linux automounter
supports that. (I use Solaris.)
athyra$ cd ~/ws
athyra$ ls -l
total 23
drwxrwxr-x 3 kupfer 9 Apr 23 09:58 453/
drwxrwxr-x 3 kupfer 6 Apr 22 17:51 453.orig/
lrwxrwxrwx 1 kupfer 37 Jan 31 14:52 4865419 ->
/net/tonic-gate/builds/kupfer/4865419/
lrwxrwxrwx 1 kupfer 38 Mar 3 2007 6367955 ->
/net/tonic-gate/builds2/kupfer/6367955/
-rw-rw-r-- 1 kupfer 8560 Jan 2 2006 6367955-sparc.env.sh
lrwxrwxrwx 1 kupfer 38 Mar 3 2007 6369336 ->
/net/tonic-gate/builds2/kupfer/6369336/
lrwxrwxrwx 1 kupfer 38 Mar 3 2007 6375198 ->
/net/tonic-gate/builds2/kupfer/6375198/
lrwxrwxrwx 1 kupfer 39 Mar 3 2007 6375198-child ->
/net/athyra/export/kupfer/6375198-child/
lrwxrwxrwx 1 kupfer 40 Mar 13 17:07 6414855.hg ->
/net/tonic-gate/builds/kupfer/6414855.hg/
[...]
Tim> Since a wrapper around gnuclient pointing back to machine 1 is my
Tim> $EDITOR of choice on machine 2, I can't just put a symlink in for
Tim> ~/thesis on machine 1, because sometimes I really do want to edit
Tim> other files on machine 2.
I don't understand. Even if you can't use /net/... as the target for
the symlink, having a ~/thesis symlink at worst means the symlink is
only valid on a particular host. It doesn't keep you from accessing
anything else on machine 2.
mike
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