8:04 a.m.
Dear all,
I tried to update my XEmacs to 21.4.8 (and subsequently to 21.1.4) but
both manifest the following problem:
When trying to update packages via menubar ("Tools->Packages->Add
Download site" and then "Tools->Packages->Update Package Index") the
FTP subprocess fails to login to the appropriate site (tried this with
several). I do not experience this problem w/ my current 21.1.10
After some digging I understood that the function called when updating
is "package-get-update-all" (Btw: How/where can one find which elisp
function corresp. to a menubar action ?). Trying to manually call that
function led to the same FTP subprocess error.
Any idea how to fix this ? Trying to unpack the latest "sumo" packages
in {prefix}/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages didn't seem to help...
Many TIA,
Florian
P.S. Please Cc: me on the replies, I'm not on this mailing
list. Thanks.
1 a.m.
|--==> "FO" == Florian-Daniel Otel <otel(a)ce.chalmers.se> writes:
FO> Dear all,
FO> I tried to update my XEmacs to 21.4.8 (and subsequently to 21.1.4) but
FO> both manifest the following problem:
FO> When trying to update packages via menubar ("Tools->Packages->Add
FO> Download site" and then "Tools->Packages->Update Package
Index") the
FO> FTP subprocess fails to login to the appropriate site (tried this with
FO> several). I do not experience this problem w/ my current 21.1.10
Without seeing the actual error message you are getting, or any
information about your system it will impossible to accurately
diagnose your problem.
After looking into my crystal ball, sacrificing a couple of virgins
(boy, they're hard to come by these days), and spending an hour or two
staring at some chicken entrails, I think you should try:
(setq efs-ftp-program-name "/bin/ftp")
Please understand that this is just a guess. If that doesn't work
please do 'M-x report-xemacs-bug RET'. That should give us the
information we need to debug this.
FO> After some digging I understood that the function called when updating
FO> is "package-get-update-all"
No it doesn't. "Tools -> Packages -> Update Package Index" runs
`package-get-update-base'.
FO> (Btw: How/where can one find which elisp function corresp. to a
FO> menubar action ?).
C-h k <choose menu item>
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10:31 p.m.
Steve Youngs writes:
|--==> "FO" == Florian-Daniel Otel
<otel(a)ce.chalmers.se> writes:
FO> Dear all,
FO> I tried to update my XEmacs to 21.4.8 (and subsequently to 21.1.4) but
FO> both manifest the following problem:
FO> When trying to update packages via menubar ("Tools->Packages->Add
FO> Download site" and then "Tools->Packages->Update Package
Index") the
FO> FTP subprocess fails to login to the appropriate site (tried this with
FO> several). I do not experience this problem w/ my current 21.1.10
Without seeing the actual error message you are getting, or any
information about your system it will impossible to accurately
diagnose your problem.
After looking into my crystal ball, sacrificing a couple of virgins
(boy, they're hard to come by these days)
Well, the important thing is never give up trying (and searching) ;)
Sexist jokes aside, I should have known better and include a bug
report. Anyway, after some long strides and with a tip from Andy Piper
(thanks Andy !) I discovered that EFS was not working properly. To
keep a long story short, here's the synopsis, just for the record.
I was on a Linux/Mandrake8.2. For some oculte reasons (see above,
chciken entrials and virgins stuff ;)), in their imense wisdom they
decied to "enhance" the good ol' ftp w/ some kerberos feats, which
apparently made EFS choke. That problem was automagically fixed when
adding an old ftp binary in the system + setting the efs var appropriately.
So, you're magic skills worked somehow :)
Anyway, that's past, and now I'm on to two new problems:
1) Toolbar visibility
Since I honest-to-God HATE the guts of that toolbar I normally (used
to) have it disabled with smth like this in my ~/.emacs:
[...]
(set-specifier default-toolbar-visible-p nil)
[...]
The only problem is that in 21.4.8 this leaves a misterious bogus extra
window around (??). Any idea ? (yes, yes: the configure script output +
proper bug report incl. at the rest of this lengthy mail ;)
2) Most serious: MIME autodecoed in VM problems
Even if I complied in support for most image types (GIF/JPG/PNG/TIFF)
even the most basic types (e.g. a GIF attachemnt) are NOT displayed by
VM anylonger.
( I used to do it w/, among many other VM settings:
[..]
(require 'mime-setup)
(setq mime-editor/split-message nil)
(setq vm-display-using-mime t
vm-send-using-mime t
vm-auto-decode-mime-messages t
vm-auto-displayed-mime-content-types t)
[..]
)
Another synopsis are that 1) w3 is apparently broken and each time I
exit I'm asked to save the "stylesheet" file and 2) I cannot display
HTML tagged mails anylonger
Any vodoo ideas ?
With many thanks (at least for reading this far!)
Florian
(painfully remembering why he upgrades xemacs only each 2 yrs or so)
P.S. The boring gory details: Output from the "report-xemacs-bug" command.
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; report-xemacs-bug
System Info to help track down your bug:
---------------------------------------
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5:20 a.m.
[ Apologies for the huge delay in responding. ]
|--==> "FO" == Florian-Daniel Otel <otel(a)ce.chalmers.se> writes:
FO> 1) Toolbar visibility
FO> Since I honest-to-God HATE the guts of that toolbar I normally (used
FO> to) have it disabled with smth like this in my ~/.emacs:
FO> [...]
FO> (set-specifier default-toolbar-visible-p nil)
FO> [...]
FO> The only problem is that in 21.4.8 this leaves a misterious bogus extra
FO> window around (??).
I'm wondering if you are referring to the new-fangled buffer-tab
thinga-ma-jig? Perhaps try:
(customize-set-variable 'gutter-buffers-tab-visible-p nil)
FO> 2) Most serious: MIME autodecoed in VM problems
[...]
I noticed that you had VM version 7.04, have you tried 7.07? If
you're still having the same problems after upgrading VM, I'd suggest:
M-x vm-submit-bug-report RET
That'll get all the right info to all the right people. :-)
FO> Another synopsis are that 1) w3 is apparently broken and each time I
FO> exit I'm asked to save the "stylesheet" file
Not sure about this one, maybe ping Bill Perry <wmperry(a)xemacs.org>.
FO> and 2) I cannot display HTML tagged mails anylonger
FO> Any vodoo ideas ?
Only that 99.9% of HTML mail is usually SPAM.
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