So if you don't revert to master, does it work? Since I can't use the menu, see my other posting it is not entirely clear to me how to return to master. I played around with various checks in and out I am offered to return to master, and then indeed C-u C-x v v works, still sort of odd. Hm in GNU emacs I don't have to revert to master. You mean the C bugger because lisp bugger will not work since it crashes immediately. I think I have to activate the C-bugger which is deactivated in Kubuntu for and I don't remember how to activate it. _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://calypso.tux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta