davep> As a point of information for me: this is dumped lisp code davep> for a beta version. Should this be posted here or to davep> xemacs-beta? Patches that you are submitting for direct application to any of our distributions (stable, beta, or packages) SHOULD _always_ go to xemacs-patches. For the core distribution, you SHOULD indicate where the patch is intended to be applied (stable aka 21.4 or unstable aka 21.5 or both), and if both, which distribution the patch was made against. Patches that you are submitting as "proof-of-concept" to facilitate discussion, but you believe are not ready for prime time as is, SHOULD go _only_ to xemacs-beta. For new features and UI changes, you MAY cross-post when you believe that discussion of the costs and benefits is important, but if the consensus is that the change is a good one, the patch may be ready to go as-is. This is your call. -- School of Systems and Information Engineering http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.