From samburton202 at aol.co.uk Sat Sep 2 17:04:14 2017 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8723360068073425550==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: samburton202 at aol.co.uk To: xemacs-beta at xemacs.org Subject: Re: Commenting out code in lisp Date: 2017-09-02 17:04:12 +0000 Message-ID: <20170902170412.7450.2860@mars.taur.is> In-Reply-To: un1e992jn.fsf@rapier.ecf.teradyne.com --===============8723360068073425550== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable guest test post = bbcode = html = http://googlee.te/ simple --===============8723360068073425550==-- From leontaylor at iinet.net.au Sun Sep 3 10:48:00 2017 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8105668400025961736==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Leon Taylor To: xemacs-beta at xemacs.org Subject: Any plans for an updated GUI? Date: 2017-09-03 20:47:45 +1000 Message-ID: <1504435665.2735.14.camel@iinet.net.au> --===============8105668400025961736== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone, I am a big fan of XEmacs, and one of my favourite things about it is that it sticks with a simple *tif interface rather than a GTK interface. = I was wondering, however, if there where any plans to update the interface, since most people expect a flashy modern interface thesedays. = Thanks, Leon --===============8105668400025961736==-- From xemacs-tracker at xemacs.org Tue Sep 5 10:35:14 2017 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1164798058162355173==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: XEmacs Issue Tracking System To: xemacs-beta at xemacs.org Subject: Summary of XEmacs Issue Tracking System Issues Date: 2017-09-05 19:35:05 +0900 Message-ID: --===============1164798058162355173== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2017-08-29 - 2017-09-05) XEmacs Issue Tracking System at http://tracker.xemacs.org/XEmacs/its/ To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue = number. Do NOT respond to this message. 574 open ( +2) / 323 closed ( +0) / 897 total ( +2) Open issues with patches: 13 Average duration of open issues: 2887 days. Median duration of open issues: 3098 days. Open Issues Breakdown new 266 ( +2) deferred 6 ( +0) napping 3 ( +0) verified 57 ( +0) assigned 145 ( +0) committed 19 ( +0) documented 3 ( +0) done/needs work 15 ( +0) Issues Created Or Reopened (2) ______________________________ XEmacs editor not working after porting from RHEL4 to RHEL6 2017-08-30 http://tracker.xemacs.org/XEmacs/its/issue898 created anonymous XEmacs editor not working after porting from RHEL4 to RHEL6 2017-08-30 http://tracker.xemacs.org/XEmacs/its/issue899 created arunkr_13 --===============1164798058162355173== Content-Type: text/html MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.html" PGgyPkFDVElWSVRZIFNVTU1BUlkgKDIwMTctMDgtMjkgLSAyMDE3LTA5LTA1KTwvaDI+CjxoMz5Y RW1hY3MgSXNzdWUgVHJhY2tpbmcgU3lzdGVtIGF0IGh0dHA6Ly90cmFja2VyLnhlbWFjcy5vcmcv WEVtYWNzL2l0cy88L2gzPgo8cD4KVG8gdmlldyBvciByZXNwb25kIHRvIGFueSBvZiB0aGUgaXNz dWVzIGxpc3RlZAogICAgICAgIGJlbG93LCBzaW1wbHkgY2xpY2sgb24gdGhlIGlzc3VlIElELiBE byA8Yj5ub3Q8L2I+IHJlc3BvbmQgdG8KICAgICAgICB0aGlzIG1lc3NhZ2UuCjwvcD4KPHA+Cjwv cD4KPHA+CiAgNTc0IG9wZW4gKCArMikgLyAgIDMyMyBjbG9zZWQgKCArMCkgLyAgIDg5NyB0b3Rh bCAoICsyKQo8L3A+CjxwPgpPcGVuIGlzc3VlcyB3aXRoIHBhdGNoZXM6ICAgIDEzCjwvcD4KPHA+ CkF2ZXJhZ2UgZHVyYXRpb24gb2Ygb3BlbiBpc3N1ZXM6IDI4ODcgZGF5cy4KPC9wPgo8cD4KTWVk aWFuIGR1cmF0aW9uIG9mIG9wZW4gaXNzdWVzOiAzMDk4IGRheXMuCjwvcD4KPHA+Cjx0YWJsZSBi b3JkZXI9IjEiIGNlbGxzcGFjaW5nPSIwIiBjZWxscGFkZGluZz0iMyI+CjxjYXB0aW9uPk9wZW4g SXNzdWVzIEJyZWFrZG93bjwvY2FwdGlvbj4KPHRyPjx0aD5TVEFUVVM8L3RoPiA8dGg+TnVtYmVy PC90aD48dGg+Q2hhbmdlPC90aD48L3RyPgoKPHRyPjx0ZD5uZXc8L3RkPjx0ZD4gICAyNjY8L3Rk Pjx0ZD4gICAgKzI8L3RkPjwvdHI+Cjx0cj48dGQ+ZGVmZXJyZWQ8L3RkPjx0ZD4gICAgIDY8L3Rk Pjx0ZD4gICAgKzA8L3RkPjwvdHI+Cjx0cj48dGQ+bmFwcGluZzwvdGQ+PHRkPiAgICAgMzwvdGQ+ PHRkPiAgICArMDwvdGQ+PC90cj4KPHRyPjx0ZD52ZXJpZmllZDwvdGQ+PHRkPiAgICA1NzwvdGQ+ PHRkPiAgICArMDwvdGQ+PC90cj4KPHRyPjx0ZD5hc3NpZ25lZDwvdGQ+PHRkPiAgIDE0NTwvdGQ+ PHRkPiAgICArMDwvdGQ+PC90cj4KPHRyPjx0ZD5jb21taXR0ZWQ8L3RkPjx0ZD4gICAgMTk8L3Rk Pjx0ZD4gICAgKzA8L3RkPjwvdHI+Cjx0cj48dGQ+ZG9jdW1lbnRlZDwvdGQ+PHRkPiAgICAgMzwv dGQ+PHRkPiAgICArMDwvdGQ+PC90cj4KPHRyPjx0ZD5kb25lL25lZWRzIHdvcms8L3RkPjx0ZD4g ICAgMTU8L3RkPjx0ZD4gICAgKzA8L3RkPjwvdHI+CjwvdGFibGU+CjwvcD4KPGJyPjx0YWJsZSBi b3JkZXI9IjEiIGNlbGxzcGFjaW5nPSIwIiBjZWxscGFkZGluZz0iMyI+CjxjYXB0aW9uPklzc3Vl cyBDcmVhdGVkIE9yIFJlb3BlbmVkICgyKTwvY2FwdGlvbj4KICAgICAgICA8dHI+CiAgICAgICAg ICAgIDx0aD4gVGl0bGUgPC90aD4KICAgICAgICAgICAgPHRoPiBTdGF0dXMgPC90aD4KICAgICAg ICAgICAgPHRoPiBEYXRlIDwvdGg+CiAgICAgICAgICAgIDx0aD4gQWN0aW9uIDwvdGg+CiAgICAg ICAgICAgIDx0aD4gQnkgPC90aD4KICAgICAgICAgICAgPHRoPiBLZXl3b3JkcyA8L3RoPgogICAg ICAgIDwvdHI+CiAgICAgICAgPHRyPgogICAgICAgICAgICA8dGQ+IDxhIGhyZWY9Imh0dHA6Ly90 cmFja2VyLnhlbWFjcy5vcmcvWEVtYWNzL2l0cy9pc3N1ZTg5OCI+WEVtYWNzIGVkaXRvciBub3Qg d29ya2luZyBhZnRlciBwb3J0aW5nIGZyb20gUkhFTDQgdG8gUkhFTDY8L2E+IDwvdGQ+CiAgICAg ICAgICAgIDx0ZD4gJm5ic3A7IDwvdGQ+CiAgICAgICAgICAgIDx0ZD4gMjAxNy0wOC0zMCA8L3Rk PgogICAgICAgICAgICA8dGQ+IGNyZWF0ZWQgPC90ZD4KICAgICAgICAgICAgPHRkPiBhbm9ueW1v dXMgPC90ZD4KICAgICAgICAgICAgPHRkPiAmbmJzcDsgPC90ZD4KICAgICAgICA8L3RyPgogICAg ICAgIDx0cj4KICAgICAgICAgICAgPHRkPiA8YSBocmVmPSJodHRwOi8vdHJhY2tlci54ZW1hY3Mu b3JnL1hFbWFjcy9pdHMvaXNzdWU4OTkiPlhFbWFjcyBlZGl0b3Igbm90IHdvcmtpbmcgYWZ0ZXIg cG9ydGluZyBmcm9tIFJIRUw0IHRvIFJIRUw2PC9hPiA8L3RkPgogICAgICAgICAgICA8dGQ+ICZu YnNwOyA8L3RkPgogICAgICAgICAgICA8dGQ+IDIwMTctMDgtMzAgPC90ZD4KICAgICAgICAgICAg PHRkPiBjcmVhdGVkIDwvdGQ+CiAgICAgICAgICAgIDx0ZD4gYXJ1bmtyXzEzIDwvdGQ+CiAgICAg ICAgICAgIDx0ZD4gJm5ic3A7IDwvdGQ+CiAgICAgICAgPC90cj4KPC90YWJsZT4KCg== --===============1164798058162355173==-- From alain.coste.3 at orange.fr Tue Sep 5 11:54:57 2017 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2994966904559816844==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: alain.coste.3 at orange.fr To: xemacs-beta at xemacs.org Subject: menubar font size in windows Date: 2017-09-05 11:54:53 +0000 Message-ID: <20170905115453.28478.43667@mars.taur.is> --===============2994966904559816844== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Perhaps this should have been posted to comp.emacs.xemacs, but this newsgro= up seems almost down. My problem arose when my old laptop (windows XP, 1920x1200 screen) died, an= d I bought a new laptop (windows 10, 3840x2160). I fell in the "high dpi hell", with the toolbar icons nearly invisible on t= he screen. The edited text itself was made visible by choosing a good font size, but w= as blurred by the stretching mechanism of windows 10. I decided the only way to go was to buy a large monitor (32", 3840x2160), i= n order to bypass the streching mechanism of windows 100, and display thing= s at 100%. Now the toolbar is correct, the text is crisp, but the menubar font is much= too large, taking much screen estate. Moreover, as I added many items to t= he menu, it no longer fits in one line, making things unsightly. I couldn't find in xemacs doc any way to change the menubar font. It seems = the menubar font (size) is hard coded in C, and no lisp function allows to = access it. Browsing the Web, I found solutions for Xemacs under Linux, or possibly Cyg= win, using the file .Xresources. I found also a solution for GNU emacs unde= r Windows by setting register values under the keys = HKCU\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\GNU\Emacs HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\GNU\Emacs Sadly this doesn't work for Xemacs, searching the register via regedit didn= 't give me any key about menubar for Xemacs. Perhaps I could create those keys and it would work, but I have no idea of = the exact spelling of those keys for Xemacs ! I considered changing for GNU emacs, or Xemacs under Cygwin, but MY Xemacs = is highly customized, including modifications in the elisp code for predefi= ned functions, and it would be a very hard job figuring how I could reimple= ment all my modifications (more than 20 years of various adjustments) in a = new software. The best way for me is to set the menubar font size for Xemacs under native= windows, as it is the only thing that doesn't work well with my new enviro= nment. If anybody out there has a solution, or some hints towards the solut= ion, please help me. Thanks in advance. Alain --===============2994966904559816844==-- From seanm at seanm.ca Tue Sep 5 15:37:44 2017 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2575756222434766106==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Sean MacLennan To: xemacs-beta at xemacs.org Subject: Re: menubar font size in windows Date: 2017-09-05 11:37:38 -0400 Message-ID: <20170905113738.7dd4a96e@zonker.seanm.ca> In-Reply-To: 20170905115453.28478.43667@mars.taur.is --===============2575756222434766106== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 11:54:53 -0000 alain.coste.3(a)orange.fr wrote: > The best way for me is to set the menubar font size for Xemacs under > native windows, as it is the only thing that doesn't work well with > my new environment. If anybody out there has a solution, or some > hints towards the solution, please help me. I only have a hint. The menubar font is is set using an X property when running X: XEmacs*menubar.font: 10x20 Not sure how the X properties are handled under windows... it has been too long. Cheers, Sean --===============2575756222434766106==-- From mats.lidell at cag.se Tue Sep 5 20:53:36 2017 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8066174530922215034==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mats Lidell To: xemacs-beta at xemacs.org Subject: Re: Any plans for an updated GUI? Date: 2017-09-05 22:53:27 +0200 Message-ID: <87efrkj29k.fsf@ernst> In-Reply-To: 1504435665.2735.14.camel@iinet.net.au --===============8066174530922215034== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Leon, > Leon Taylor writes: > I was wondering, however, if there where any plans to update the > interface, since most people expect a flashy modern interface > thesedays. = Although I'm not particularly active I think I can speak for the XEmacs Project that there are no plans like that. No plans at all really. I'm sad = to say but I'm afraid that there is not much development of XEmacs and that situation has been so for many years now. Yours -- = %% Mats --===============8066174530922215034==-- From kehoea at parhasard.net Wed Sep 6 10:38:21 2017 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1939261654235515535==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Aidan Kehoe To: xemacs-beta at xemacs.org Subject: Re: menubar font size in windows Date: 2017-09-06 11:38:18 +0100 Message-ID: <59af.d01a.d6768.62cb@parhasard.net> In-Reply-To: 20170905115453.28478.43667@mars.taur.is --===============1939261654235515535== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Alain, The menubar font in XEmacs is the system default menu font; on this XP machine I can change it by going to Control Panel -> Display -> Appearance -> Advanced -> selecting =E2=80=9CMenu=E2=80=9D in the =E2=80=9CItem=E2=80= =9D drop-down, changing its font and its size, then clicking OK, then Apply. I don=E2=80=99t know what the corresponding approach is in Windows 10. There is no corresponding registry entry, to my knowledge. I would be surprised if other applications had no issues. Can you try changing the corresponding system font and report back? Best, Aidan Ar an c=C3=BAigi=C3=BA l=C3=A1 de m=C3=AD M=C3=A9an F=C3=B3mhair, scr=C3= =ADobh alain.coste.3(a)orange.fr: = > Hello > Perhaps this should have been posted to comp.emacs.xemacs, but this news= group seems almost down. > My problem arose when my old laptop (windows XP, 1920x1200 screen) died,= and I bought a new laptop (windows 10, 3840x2160). > I fell in the "high dpi hell", with the toolbar icons nearly invisible o= n the screen. > The edited text itself was made visible by choosing a good font size, bu= t was blurred by the stretching mechanism of windows 10. > I decided the only way to go was to buy a large monitor (32", 3840x2160)= , in order to bypass the streching mechanism of windows 100, and display th= ings at 100%. > Now the toolbar is correct, the text is crisp, but the menubar font is m= uch too large, taking much screen estate. Moreover, as I added many items t= o the menu, it no longer fits in one line, making things unsightly. > I couldn't find in xemacs doc any way to change the menubar font. It see= ms the menubar font (size) is hard coded in C, and no lisp function allows = to access it. > Browsing the Web, I found solutions for Xemacs under Linux, or possibly = Cygwin, using the file .Xresources. I found also a solution for GNU emacs u= nder Windows by setting register values under the keys = > HKCU\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\GNU\Emacs > HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\GNU\Emacs > Sadly this doesn't work for Xemacs, searching the register via regedit d= idn't give me any key about menubar for Xemacs. > Perhaps I could create those keys and it would work, but I have no idea = of the exact spelling of those keys for Xemacs ! > = > I considered changing for GNU emacs, or Xemacs under Cygwin, but MY Xema= cs is highly customized, including modifications in the elisp code for pred= efined functions, and it would be a very hard job figuring how I could reim= plement all my modifications (more than 20 years of various adjustments) in= a new software. > = > The best way for me is to set the menubar font size for Xemacs under nat= ive windows, as it is the only thing that doesn't work well with my new env= ironment. If anybody out there has a solution, or some hints towards the so= lution, please help me. > Thanks in advance. > Alain -- = =E2=80=98As I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out / How your man stayed up on the surfboard after forty pints of stout=E2=80=99 (C. Moore) --===============1939261654235515535==-- From kehoea at parhasard.net Wed Sep 6 10:41:09 2017 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6820339063043856879==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Aidan Kehoe To: xemacs-beta at xemacs.org Subject: Re: Any plans for an updated GUI? Date: 2017-09-06 11:41:07 +0100 Message-ID: <59af.d0c3.7ae6.e465@parhasard.net> In-Reply-To: 87efrkj29k.fsf@ernst --===============6820339063043856879== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ar an c=C3=BAigi=C3=BA l=C3=A1 de m=C3=AD M=C3=A9an F=C3=B3mhair, scr=C3= =ADobh Mats Lidell: = > > Leon Taylor writes: > > I was wondering, however, if there where any plans to update the > > interface, since most people expect a flashy modern interface > > thesedays. = > = > Although I'm not particularly active I think I can speak for the XEmacs > Project that there are no plans like that. No plans at all really. I'm s= ad to > say but I'm afraid that there is not much development of XEmacs and that > situation has been so for many years now. This is essentially true. I will do some work on XEmacs for the foreseeable future, and some of that work will involve improving the GTK support. I have an exam at the end of the month and then a massive legal personal issue to sort out, so I won=E2=80=99t be around much, and then after that I will onl= y be able to put about a quarter of a full-time-equivalent of work in. -- = =E2=80=98As I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out / How your man stayed up on the surfboard after forty pints of stout=E2=80=99 (C. Moore) --===============6820339063043856879==-- From alain.coste.3 at orange.fr Wed Sep 6 13:22:45 2017 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4281764600801527237==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: alain.coste.3 at orange.fr To: xemacs-beta at xemacs.org Subject: Re: menubar font size in windows Date: 2017-09-06 13:22:42 +0000 Message-ID: <20170906132242.14104.41882@mars.taur.is> In-Reply-To: 59af.d01a.d6768.62cb@parhasard.net --===============4281764600801527237== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Aidan Windows 10 is really a mess. Everything you can do in a reasonable simple w= ay in XP becomes almost impossible in Windows 10 ! All the stuff for adjust= ing menu fonts, title bar fonts, window borders width, ... is gone in Windo= ws 10, and you have to cope with the generally aberrant values Microsoft de= cided for you (in fact Windows 10 was conceived for tablets, and even if yo= u buy the most expensive laptop or desktop computer, you end up using a tab= let...). Fortunately, browsing the web gives some solutions, like register keys to m= odify, or tweakers (Winaero Tweaker for instance) which allow to regain som= e control on GUI appearance. BUT, this is without counting with the deplorable way Windows 10 manages th= e scaling on high DPI displays : if you leave Windows 10 manage the scaling= , everything is blurred on the screen, which is really a pity when you opte= d for a high DPI display ! The only way to go is to tell Windows 10 "Don't do anything" (an option exi= sts on a per application basis to have no scaling done by the OS, the scali= ng is done by the application). And here is my problem : Xemacs must do all= the scaling : no problem for the text font (easy to change), fortunately t= he toolbar is fairly readable (at least on my 32" monitor), but the menubar= font sucks : much too large as I explained. Now other applications have also problems, a web search with "windows 10 sc= aling issues" gives you countless references to users complaining about thi= s, and sometimes some solutions. Sadly I didn't find anything for Xemacs na= tive on Windows ... To answer precisely your question, I tried to decrease the menu font size (= using Winaero Tweaker, as Windows 10 has no native way to do that). But as = the Windows 10 scaling is disabled for Xemacs (only way to have a crisp edi= ted text), it had no effect, except making Windows menus more difficult to = read... --===============4281764600801527237==-- From rainer.woitok at gmail.com Mon Sep 11 10:29:38 2017 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8816283715959271675==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dr Rainer Woitok To: xemacs-beta at xemacs.org Subject: Version numberig of XEmacs Date: 2017-09-11 12:29:21 +0200 Message-ID: <22966.25985.303000.522141@woitok.gmail.com> --===============8816283715959271675== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings, opening XEmacs under Cygwin and clicking on "Help" -> "About XEmacs ..." presents a buffer showing (among other things) the text [version 21.4.24; April 2015] and doing the same under Ubuntu returns a similar [version 21.4.22; April 2015] However when I check the Mercurial log of the repository found at https://bitbucket.org/xemacs/xemacs or look into file "ChangeLog" in aforementioned repository I cannot find such an XEmacs version. According to this file version 21.5.0 "alfalfa" was already released 2001-04-18, the version before this was 21.2.46 "Urania", dating back to 2001-03-21, and the version current in April 2015 aparently was 21.5.34 "kale", released at 2013-06-23. What does version 21.4.* really refer to? Sincerely, Rainer --===============8816283715959271675==-- From kehoea at parhasard.net Mon Sep 11 13:07:37 2017 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6458500722402424732==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Aidan Kehoe To: xemacs-beta at xemacs.org Subject: Re: Version numberig of XEmacs Date: 2017-09-11 14:07:33 +0100 Message-ID: <59b6.8a95.753e7.a630@parhasard.net> In-Reply-To: 22966.25985.303000.522141@woitok.gmail.com --===============6458500722402424732== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ar an t-aon=C3=BA l=C3=A1 d=C3=A9ag de m=C3=AD M=C3=A9an F=C3=B3mhair, scr= =C3=ADobh Dr Rainer Woitok: = > What does version 21.4.* really refer to? It refers to the =E2=80=99stable=E2=80=99 version, of which the Mercurial r= epository is available here: https://bitbucket.org/xemacs/xemacs-21.4/ As you may have worked out, XEmacs is not a very active software project currently. Those who use it in general use version 21.5, which is designated the beta version; Windows binaries available here: ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/binaries/win32/InnoSetup/ -- = =E2=80=98As I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out / How your man stayed up on the surfboard after forty pints of stout=E2=80=99 (C. Moore) --===============6458500722402424732==-- From xemacs-tracker at xemacs.org Tue Sep 12 10:35:10 2017 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4280579210193951131==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: XEmacs Issue Tracking System To: xemacs-beta at xemacs.org Subject: Summary of XEmacs Issue Tracking System Issues Date: 2017-09-12 19:35:04 +0900 Message-ID: --===============4280579210193951131== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2017-09-05 - 2017-09-12) XEmacs Issue Tracking System at http://tracker.xemacs.org/XEmacs/its/ To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue = number. Do NOT respond to this message. 574 open ( +0) / 323 closed ( +0) / 897 total ( +0) Open issues with patches: 13 Average duration of open issues: 2894 days. Median duration of open issues: 3105 days. Open Issues Breakdown new 266 ( +0) deferred 6 ( +0) napping 3 ( +0) verified 57 ( +0) assigned 145 ( +0) committed 19 ( +0) documented 3 ( +0) done/needs work 15 ( +0) --===============4280579210193951131== Content-Type: text/html MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.html" PGgyPkFDVElWSVRZIFNVTU1BUlkgKDIwMTctMDktMDUgLSAyMDE3LTA5LTEyKTwvaDI+CjxoMz5Y RW1hY3MgSXNzdWUgVHJhY2tpbmcgU3lzdGVtIGF0IGh0dHA6Ly90cmFja2VyLnhlbWFjcy5vcmcv WEVtYWNzL2l0cy88L2gzPgo8cD4KVG8gdmlldyBvciByZXNwb25kIHRvIGFueSBvZiB0aGUgaXNz dWVzIGxpc3RlZAogICAgICAgIGJlbG93LCBzaW1wbHkgY2xpY2sgb24gdGhlIGlzc3VlIElELiBE byA8Yj5ub3Q8L2I+IHJlc3BvbmQgdG8KICAgICAgICB0aGlzIG1lc3NhZ2UuCjwvcD4KPHA+Cjwv cD4KPHA+CiAgNTc0IG9wZW4gKCArMCkgLyAgIDMyMyBjbG9zZWQgKCArMCkgLyAgIDg5NyB0b3Rh bCAoICswKQo8L3A+CjxwPgpPcGVuIGlzc3VlcyB3aXRoIHBhdGNoZXM6ICAgIDEzCjwvcD4KPHA+ CkF2ZXJhZ2UgZHVyYXRpb24gb2Ygb3BlbiBpc3N1ZXM6IDI4OTQgZGF5cy4KPC9wPgo8cD4KTWVk aWFuIGR1cmF0aW9uIG9mIG9wZW4gaXNzdWVzOiAzMTA1IGRheXMuCjwvcD4KPHA+Cjx0YWJsZSBi b3JkZXI9IjEiIGNlbGxzcGFjaW5nPSIwIiBjZWxscGFkZGluZz0iMyI+CjxjYXB0aW9uPk9wZW4g SXNzdWVzIEJyZWFrZG93bjwvY2FwdGlvbj4KPHRyPjx0aD5TVEFUVVM8L3RoPiA8dGg+TnVtYmVy PC90aD48dGg+Q2hhbmdlPC90aD48L3RyPgoKPHRyPjx0ZD5uZXc8L3RkPjx0ZD4gICAyNjY8L3Rk Pjx0ZD4gICAgKzA8L3RkPjwvdHI+Cjx0cj48dGQ+ZGVmZXJyZWQ8L3RkPjx0ZD4gICAgIDY8L3Rk Pjx0ZD4gICAgKzA8L3RkPjwvdHI+Cjx0cj48dGQ+bmFwcGluZzwvdGQ+PHRkPiAgICAgMzwvdGQ+ PHRkPiAgICArMDwvdGQ+PC90cj4KPHRyPjx0ZD52ZXJpZmllZDwvdGQ+PHRkPiAgICA1NzwvdGQ+ PHRkPiAgICArMDwvdGQ+PC90cj4KPHRyPjx0ZD5hc3NpZ25lZDwvdGQ+PHRkPiAgIDE0NTwvdGQ+ PHRkPiAgICArMDwvdGQ+PC90cj4KPHRyPjx0ZD5jb21taXR0ZWQ8L3RkPjx0ZD4gICAgMTk8L3Rk Pjx0ZD4gICAgKzA8L3RkPjwvdHI+Cjx0cj48dGQ+ZG9jdW1lbnRlZDwvdGQ+PHRkPiAgICAgMzwv dGQ+PHRkPiAgICArMDwvdGQ+PC90cj4KPHRyPjx0ZD5kb25lL25lZWRzIHdvcms8L3RkPjx0ZD4g ICAgMTU8L3RkPjx0ZD4gICAgKzA8L3RkPjwvdHI+CjwvdGFibGU+CjwvcD4KCg== --===============4280579210193951131==-- From rainer.woitok at gmail.com Tue Sep 12 15:02:51 2017 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2342682705131894807==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dr Rainer Woitok To: xemacs-beta at xemacs.org Subject: Re: Version numberig of XEmacs Date: 2017-09-12 15:02:45 +0000 Message-ID: <20170912150245.16149.88318@mars.taur.is> In-Reply-To: 59b6.8a95.753e7.a630@parhasard.net --===============2342682705131894807== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Aidan, thanks for the immediate reply ... :-) On 2017-09-11, 14:07 you wrote: > ... > It refers to the =E2=80=99stable=E2=80=99 version, of which the Mercurial= repository is > available here: https://bitbucket.org/xemacs/xemacs-21.4/ Aha. But I'm still a bit surprised that the changesets of the former stabl= e version are nowhere to be found in the repository of the new beta version derived from it. Or = is 21.5 really derived from 21.2 and 21.4 is some sort of (stable) dead branch? > As you may have worked out, XEmacs is not a very active software project > currently. Those who use it in general use version 21.5, which is designa= ted > the beta version; Windows binaries available here: > ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/binaries/win32/InnoSetup/ Yes, I have noticed it's not very active, but I'm more than glad it's activ= e at all, after it looked as good as dead not so long ago ... And no, I'm not interested in Windows binaries, I prefer to roll my own ...= :-) Sincerely, Rainer --===============2342682705131894807==-- From kehoea at parhasard.net Thu Sep 14 21:15:08 2017 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6930947995787435237==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Aidan Kehoe To: xemacs-beta at xemacs.org Subject: Re: Version numberig of XEmacs Date: 2017-09-14 22:15:06 +0100 Message-ID: <59ba.f15a.72bfa.6c1a@parhasard.net> In-Reply-To: 20170912150245.16149.88318@mars.taur.is --===============6930947995787435237== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ar an dara l=C3=A1 d=C3=A9ag de m=C3=AD M=C3=A9an F=C3=B3mhair, scr=C3=ADo= bh rainer.woitok(a)gmail.com: = > Aidan, > = > thanks for the immediate reply ... :-) > = > On 2017-09-11, 14:07 you wrote: > = > > ... > > It refers to the =E2=80=99stable=E2=80=99 version, of which the Mercur= ial repository is > > available here: https://bitbucket.org/xemacs/xemacs-21.4/ > = > Aha. But I'm still a bit surprised that the changesets of the former st= able version are nowhere > to be found in the repository of the new beta version derived from it. = Or is 21.5 really derived > from 21.2 and 21.4 is some sort of (stable) dead branch? Right. The most recent common ancestor is XEmacs 21.2.46 of 2001-03-21. Shortly after that 21.4 became the stable branch and 21.5 became the development branch. > > As you may have worked out, XEmacs is not a very active software proje= ct > > currently. Those who use it in general use version 21.5, which is desi= gnated > > the beta version; Windows binaries available here: > > ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/binaries/win32/InnoSetup/ > = > Yes, I have noticed it's not very active, but I'm more than glad it's > active at all, after it looked as good as dead not so long ago ... > > And no, I'm not interested in Windows binaries, I prefer to roll my own = ... :-) Great, glad to read it! -- = =E2=80=98As I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out / How your man stayed up on the surfboard after forty pints of stout=E2=80=99 (C. Moore) --===============6930947995787435237==-- From xemacs-tracker at xemacs.org Tue Sep 19 10:35:11 2017 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5979025360911951447==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: XEmacs Issue Tracking System To: xemacs-beta at xemacs.org Subject: Summary of XEmacs Issue Tracking System Issues Date: 2017-09-19 19:35:04 +0900 Message-ID: --===============5979025360911951447== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2017-09-12 - 2017-09-19) XEmacs Issue Tracking System at http://tracker.xemacs.org/XEmacs/its/ To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue = number. Do NOT respond to this message. 574 open ( +0) / 323 closed ( +0) / 897 total ( +0) Open issues with patches: 13 Average duration of open issues: 2901 days. Median duration of open issues: 3112 days. 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