That "vision" thang...

[David Kastrup]

SL Baur <steve at xemacs.org> writes:

> And another historical bit to add:  I would suggest that
> most of the problems I see being brought up in this
> thread are due to the fact that we did all this stuff *first*!
> Some of us joined the emacs camp because it was the
> first windowing system you could run on a glass tty.
>
> In a sense the world has passed us by to some extent,
> in the same fashion that Microsoft Outlook has passed
> by decent email systems with crap that has destroyed
> the very concept it supposedly implements.

I don't think that the Emacs world of whatever flavor has been bypassed.
People more have taken a large unbelieving look and then went elsewhere.

The marketing slogan "Where do you want to go today?" in this case would
be met with "no idea, but certainly not there".

> The "standard" XEmacs at work is 21.1 and 21.4 is
> labeled `xemacs-beta'.  :-(  The FSF Emacs versions
> are similar, but have backchannels where various
> people can push newer versions through, just so long
> as the basic IOS editing/debugging tools work.
>
> -sb (who's gotten slammed for pushing XEmacs at work)

Depending on what "pushing" is supposed to mean, it might be a reason
for annoyance fairly independent of the pushee.

-- 
David Kastrup