Hosting issues

[Vladimir G. Ivanovic]

Mike,

Thanks for the info. Can you (or can someone else) summarize the
discussion? Did inertia win? Is there a plan to move forward? Is there
a plan but no implementor(s)? Are there unresolved technical
disagreements? (A pointer to the discussion(s) is fine instead of a
summary.)

One other thing I forgot to mention: Some  packages on (at least)
ibiblio.org have not been updated since 2003! These are either the
most stable software packages in the universe, or they're never used.
;-) But, their existence makes more sense know that I know there is a
21.4-21.5 package issue.

--- Vladimir

on 09/16/2008 07:55 PM Mike Kupfer said the following:
>>>>>> "VGI" == Vladimir G Ivanovic <vgivanovic at comcast.net> writes:
> 
> VGI> I cannot browse www.xemacs.org and it does not repond to a ping.
> 
> I'm currently able to access it.  I haven't noticed problems with it
> recently.
> 
> VGI> I tried updating my packages from
> 
> VGI> 1. the US main site
> VGI> 2. ibiblio.org
> VGI> 3. us.xemacs.org
> 
> VGI> and all failed. The US main site just never responded, and the
> VGI> others reported file/directory not found. (BTW, I don't think I
> VGI> have EVER been successful in updating my packages using
> VGI> 'package-get' in the last 10 years, but maybe it's PEBKAC or an
> VGI> ID10T error.)
> 
> I've found the package automation to be somewhat temperamental.  It
> works okay from my Solaris box, using the main XEmacs site.  But I
> usually have problems with the Linux box--something about passive FTP
> not being supported on the servers, IIRC.  (Though come to think of it,
> I don't think I've tried it since I upgraded to openSUSE 11.0.)
> 
> VGI> "us.xemacs.org" does not resolve.
> 
> I recall running into problems with us.xemacs.org, too.  I reported it,
> but I don't remember the outcome.  There *is* a www.us.xemacs.org FWIW.
> 
> VGI> It appears that the ibiblio XEmacs sumo packages haven't been
> VGI> updated since 27 Apr 2007. 
> 
> That's the most recent version at ftp.xemacs.org, too.
> 
> Last I heard, production of new stable packages is stuck, because some
> of the packages don't build with 21.4.  This issue has been raised a
> couple times in the past 10 months or so, but AFAIK it hasn't been fixed
> yet. :-(
> 
> mike
> 

-- 
Vladimir G. Ivanovic


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