[Novalug] OT: Broken phone line ?

Craig Pennington cpenning at gmail.com
Fri Jan 12 09:49:38 EST 2007


Greg,

You really should try a handset at the NID, but I expect that it works fine
given your description. Is there a central place where the lines to the
individual jacks are connected to the line from the NID? (The 1st thing I do
when I move into a place is install a punchboard so I can quickly diagnose
this kind of thing, but that's way overkill for most people.) What I'm
really asking is can you isolate the short by removing the line to each jack
from the circuit individually. A the very least, you've got splitters in
various locations that might allow you to narrow it down.

-Craig

On 1/12/07, gregory pryzby <greg at pryzby.org> wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 08:39:55AM -0500, Nick Danger wrote:
> > gregory pryzby wrote:
> > > Disconnected at NID.... I get 'regular vmail message'.
> > >
> > > So there is a short somewhere. I will leave the NID disconnect for now
> > > and examine every jack.
> > >
> >
> > Greg -
> >
> > I was trying to follow and did you say even when you disconnect all the
> > internal wiring from the NID and plug in a phone at that point you still
> > get no dialtone and the call goes right to VoiceMail? (And we are
> > talking a smartjack and not just a goofy grey DMARK box right?)
>
> There is a grey box w/ 2 sides. I can open one side. I squeeze to tabs
> and there is a jack there. I plug in and that jack works.... Straight
> to VMAIL.
>
> I then removed the 2 wires to that jack in the NID and called from my
> cell, regular ring. I did not try that jack. Makes me think it is
> internal.
>
> I will leave the NID wires disconnected for now.
>
> I have looked at the jacks and see no issues.
>
> I did try to plug my VOIP into the an internal jack and that didn't give
> me dial
> tone.
>
> I am betting on a short inside.
>
> Because the jacks look fine, I have no idea how to 'fix' this one
>
> :(
>
> > If that is true, then your SmartJack might be in loop test or something
> > is wrong on the ILEC, and then you have to call Verizon. If you do get
> > voice/dialtone and things are working, then put your Ohm Meter or
> > continuity tester on the two wires running to the rest of your house.
> > You should have zero ohms or no continuity. If you have anything, then
> > its a short.
> >
> > Just remember, a ringing phone is 40 volts AC. It can sting when you
> > aren't expecting it ;-)
>
> --
> greg pryzby                              greg at pryzby dot org
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