[Novalug] VDVFQ : Very Dumb Vague Fuzzy Question : list management
karhunhammas at Lserv.com
Mon Jan 8 16:03:44 EST 2007
I've been running a couple of lists manually for years,
using Pine and its Lcc: function -- which iiuc is a variant of
Bcc: -- and am presently wringing out a sub-list of one. More on
Lcc: (list carbon copy) puts a dummy in the To: field, to
prevent broken a/o antiquated machinery along the way from
throwing the whole Bcc: field into the open in the To: field; but
it's still basically Bcc: -- and looks like it to filters.
My lists have always been text-only, partly because one
or two subscribers are still on dialup; maximum distribution is
well under 50, usual distribution under 25. They're available by
invitation from me only, which saves me some common hassles; I'd
like to keep them that way.
One new list is in some sense a sublist of an old one
called Babblexia : discussions of posts on the main list were
tried, revoked, then moved to this other list. So the new one is
specifically for those subscribers to Babblexia who want to see
and participate in items that come up on Babblexia.
(I lost valued Babblexia subscribers whom some topic
enraged, though it interested others; I want to take extreme
precautions against that happening again. Then, maybe, I'll get
up the nerve to invite the leavers back, with a solid promise.)
This is getting complicated, and anyway I'm sick and
tired of idiot spamfilters that trap anything with a Bcc: field.
I'm looking for a better way, one that even a subtechnoid
moderator can handle. I have glimmerings of three.
One is simply to move one or both lists to one of my new
addresses at Fastmail.fm, which also hosts domains; I'm planning
to buy a domain name or two, as soon as I decide where to buy it.
(See separate post.)
I could then give each list an address of its own, and
run them from there -- either through Fastmail's web interface
(though pine email is the one thing my fingers know well enough
to make me despise webmail and any other GUI), or simply by
continuing to use pine. (My pine account at Lserv is already set
up to access anything I get at Fastmail; that works, routinely
The difficulty is that discussants would have to remember
to change the address on every post -- or I would.
Maybe I could find a list host cheap enough, and run
either Mailman (which I'm superficially familiar with) or
enemies-of-carlotta, which appeals because it's supposed to be
lean & mean to the Nth; but that's all I know about it.
Or maybe I could use dreamhost, vpslink, hostmonster, or
whatever to run a web forum -- preferably a password-protewcted
I like the software at
which I have long used as a poster, and am in contact with Dan
Laliberte, who wrote it. It could be done with that, and there
may be others; but I haven't got my head straight enough yet to
start following up on details.
Any/All comments heartily welcome.
Beartooth Squirreler, Wordcrafty Staffwright
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