Ar an tríú lá is fiche de mí Iúil, scríobh Stephen J. Turnbull: That is the right thing, some of the time. But I do not want my TTY XEmacs tied up with an error message (that I can’t see, because trying to display it leads to another, and another ...) just because some character in the selected window cannot be encoded using UTF-8, my console-coding-system. And none of the code out there is prepared to handle these errors, and won’t be, since GNU have taken the safe-charsets approach. We need a separate API. No it’s not. http://mid.gmane.org/f2g834$sds$1＠sea.gmane.org , http://mid.gmane.org/87ll1xcm3r.fsf＠xemacs.org . I could trawl the lists some more if you want. That exception mechanism can’t be turned on by default, for the sake of TTYs and for the sake of conversion in redisplay, which happens for every character set on Win32, XFT and on OS X. We don’t require that every character in every character set have a Unicode mapping. Well, my main objection to it is that it’s not turned on by default in the appropriate locales. I’m happy with its UI and performance; its charset coverage could be better, sure. It would be appropriate to move iso-8859-7 to being this kind of coding system, I think, since the Greeks don’t want ISO-2022 encoding either, and they will benefit from the unification of the punctuation characters. I’m also inclined to add MacRoman, MacGreek and MacCyrillic, and perhaps EBCDIC. Mule-UCS was faster than the 21.5 utf-8 implementation for me in practice--I’ve just double-checked this impression. Hrvoje had a big problem with its memory usage, which is also an aspect of performance. These generated coding systems have two vectors full of immediate values, ballpark 2.5K, and a hash table full of 256 immediate values, ballpark 2K, as their implementation data. This is more than the old CCL coding systems had, but not anything in the same ball park as the 10MB of the Mule-UCS package, though it doesn’t make sense to directly compare them. -- On the quay of the little Black Sea port, where the rescued pair came once more into contact with civilization, Dobrinton was bitten by a dog which was assumed to be mad, though it may only have been indiscriminating. (Saki) _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Patches mailing list XEmacs-Patches(a)xemacs.org http://calypso.tux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-patches