Re: [SUPERCEDES] Re: [PATCH 21.5] add `mswindows-send-sys-command' builtin

>>>>> "Ben" == Ben Wing <benwing666(a)gmail.com&gt; writes: Ben> we want instead an interface that works the same on *all* Ben> window systems (at least, X and MSW). I agree with the request for a general interface, but would add that John isn't responsible for implementing it on X. I think there are now agreed conventions that you can look up on freedesktop.org, but I haven't heard from anybody who really wants them ... X implementation is not a big rush.

Ben> (note, i'm almost positive there is something equivalent Ben> already in the lwlib-menubar interface) lwlib ... maybe it was a good idea 15 years ago, but we really should scrap it and just make all those things Lisp objects (and properly factor out consoles, devices, displays, etc while we're at it). I've been doing some digging in the X code, and it just doesn't conform to Xt conventions. To get Xft to any sanity, the X interfaces are going to have to be rationalized. I think lwlib is just going to get in the way. I don't think lwlib conformance is something that people should be requested to provide. It's just too hairy and useless.

Ben> it would also probably be OK to create a *general* interface Ben> for sending any kind of event (or as general as you can Ben> reasonably implement it); this should not be restricted to Ben> WM_SYSCOMMAND messages, should probably allow symbols as well Ben> as numbers, and should *not* be advertised as the primary way Ben> to do things like maximizing a frame. Sure, but couldn't he just name the function -internal, wrap it with a bit of Lisp to translate symbols to numbers, and then wrap minimize-, maximize-, etc functions around that?