Mats, Have you taken over as maintainer of Hyperbole from the, unfortunately, defunct BeOpen (formerly AltraSoft)? If so, that would be great! Any chances you might move on to OO-Browser and that OO-Browser would become, along with Hyperbole, formally supported and distributed XEmacs packages? ...Jake ML> Hi Norbert, ML> Hyperbole should now work in the package tree. I have checked in a new ML> Makefile and made some obvious changes to connections to the mail lists ML> and supplied a few of the few local patches I have had locally. (You ML> see from the checkins that it is really just a little.) ML> I believe that hyperbole now is ready to be built by the smoketest and ML> even also used! ML> So please go ahead and add hyperbole to the xemacs-package/Makefile. ML> Yours ML> -- ML> %% Mats -- Jake Colman Principia Partners LLC Phone: (201) 209-2467 Harborside Financial Center Fax: (201) 946-0320 902 Plaza Two E-mail: colman(a)ppllc.com Jersey City, NJ 07311 www.principiapartners.com

ML> Not quite. I am the maintainer of Hyperbole in the XEmacs ML> packages. ML> My first goal is met by bringing Hyperbole back into the ML> packages. I am considering doing the same for oo-browser. ML> There has also been a lot of development out there and even inside ML> XEmacs that provides similar functionality to Hyperbole. I have no ML> plans at the moment to refactor Hyperbole to use or support this new ML> functionality better or in any new way than already is available in ML> the package. What is out there in XEmacs that provides functionality similar to hyperbole? I'm just curious. Jake> Any chances you might move on to OO-Browser and that OO-Browser Jake> would become, along with Hyperbole, formally supported and Jake> distributed XEmacs packages? ML> If the maintenance of Hyperbole goes well I might do that. I'l let you know if I start on this myself. ML> Just bringing it in would be possible. I estimate though that ML> OO-Browser would require quite some more time if it should be brought ML> up to support all features in the current supported language ML> set. Which is quite likely what you want if you are going to use ML> it. Things like C++ namespaces isn't supported at all and will ML> probably requires some work. There might be similar things for the ML> other languages. Agreed. But its current functionality is still quite good. ML> The fact that there is an active code browser project for Emacs does ML> also make the project questionable. I assume you mean ECB? I think OO-Browser, when it works right, is alot better than ECB. This is true both in its presentation and in what it can do. Just my opinion... ...Jake -- Jake Colman Principia Partners LLC Phone: (201) 209-2467 Harborside Financial Center Fax: (201) 946-0320 902 Plaza Two E-mail: colman(a)ppllc.com Jersey City, NJ 07311 www.principiapartners.com