5:27 p.m.
Hi,
I have seen the links to gemacs and other works for using scheme
as a macro language in GNU Emacs. I am wondering if there is any
work on doing this in XEmacs?
The problem that I am having is that I quite enjoy using XEmacs
but would like to write a few packages and integrate by XEmacs
and witme usage (witme == filemgr + scheme + evas) and would
obviously like to use only scheme in this utopian desktop.
I am wondering if there is any works like gemacs to use scheme
along side Emacs lisp as another interpreter in XEmacs?
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5:31 a.m.
>>>> "monkeyiq" == monkeyiq
<monkeyiq(a)dingoblue.net.au> writes:
monkeyiq> I am wondering if there is any works like gemacs to use
monkeyiq> scheme along side Emacs lisp as another interpreter in
monkeyiq> XEmacs?
Not currently. There has been discussion of changing the Lisp engine
in XEmacs -- see eg
http://www.xemacs.org/Architecting-XEmacs/lisp-engine-replacement.html
http://www-pu.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/users/sperber/xemacs/next-gener...
-- but there is no currently active effort AFAIK.
Guile is pretty low on the list of implementations being considered,
last I heard. Many developers favor Common Lisp, which won't help
you, and others prefer various dialects of Scheme other than Guile.
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7:22 a.m.
Stephen J. Turnbull writes:
>>>>> "monkeyiq" == monkeyiq
<monkeyiq(a)dingoblue.net.au> writes:
monkeyiq> I am wondering if there is any works like gemacs to use
monkeyiq> scheme along side Emacs lisp as another interpreter in
monkeyiq> XEmacs?
Not currently. There has been discussion of changing the Lisp engine
in XEmacs -- see eg
http://www.xemacs.org/Architecting-XEmacs/lisp-engine-replacement.html
http://www-pu.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/users/sperber/xemacs/next-gener...
these are veri informative
puts up hand to help if perl gets used in this process
have had quite a bit of perl experience
and regex is something i use a lot
-- but there is no currently active effort AFAIK.
who is in charge of it anyone know ??
8:36 a.m.
Peter Brown <rendhalver(a)users.sourceforge.net> writes:
> -- but there is no currently active effort AFAIK.
who is in charge of it anyone know ??
If there is no active effort, there is obviously noone in charge,
really.
However, there used to be a project of mixing Emacs and Perl, and the
developers showed interest in using XEmacs too. I don't know what
came of it, though.
2:22 p.m.
Hrvoje Niksic writes:
Peter Brown <rendhalver(a)users.sourceforge.net> writes:
> > -- but there is no currently active effort AFAIK.
>
> who is in charge of it anyone know ??
If there is no active effort, there is obviously noone in charge,
really.
However, there used to be a project of mixing Emacs and Perl, and the
developers showed interest in using XEmacs too. I don't know what
came of it, though.
thanks for the info
any idea if there was a web page or something i could look at ??
if not i will do a search for it
they sound like a bunch of people worth knowing :)
8:43 a.m.
Peter Brown wrote:
Stephen J. Turnbull writes:
> >>>>> "monkeyiq" == monkeyiq
<monkeyiq(a)dingoblue.net.au> writes:
>
> monkeyiq> I am wondering if there is any works like gemacs to use
> monkeyiq> scheme along side Emacs lisp as another interpreter in
> monkeyiq> XEmacs?
>
> Not currently. There has been discussion of changing the Lisp engine
> in XEmacs -- see eg
>
> http://www.xemacs.org/Architecting-XEmacs/lisp-engine-replacement.html
> http://www-pu.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/users/sperber/xemacs/next-gener...
these are veri informative
puts up hand to help if perl gets used in this process
have had quite a bit of perl experience
and regex is something i use a lot
> -- but there is no currently active effort AFAIK.
who is in charge of it anyone know ??
no one. but if you submit some docs i'll put them in Architecting-XEmacs.
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2:19 p.m.
Ben Wing writes:
> these are veri informative
>
> puts up hand to help if perl gets used in this process
>
> have had quite a bit of perl experience
> and regex is something i use a lot
>
> > -- but there is no currently active effort AFAIK.
>
> who is in charge of it anyone know ??
no one. but if you submit some docs i'll put them in Architecting-XEmacs.
cool
guess its time to delve into xemacs core code
this should be fun
time to learn some more about reading c code at least :)
this may take a while
will email you when i have something
2:21 a.m.
Peter Brown wrote:
Ben Wing writes:
> > these are veri informative
> >
> > puts up hand to help if perl gets used in this process
> >
> > have had quite a bit of perl experience
> > and regex is something i use a lot
> >
> > > -- but there is no currently active effort AFAIK.
> >
> > who is in charge of it anyone know ??
>
> no one. but if you submit some docs i'll put them in Architecting-XEmacs.
cool
guess its time to delve into xemacs core code
this should be fun
time to learn some more about reading c code at least :)
this may take a while
will email you when i have something
remember that there's an internals manual supplied with xemacs.
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10:12 a.m.
>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull
<turnbull(a)sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> writes:
>>>> "monkeyiq" == monkeyiq
<monkeyiq(a)dingoblue.net.au> writes:
monkeyiq> I am wondering if there is any works like gemacs to use
monkeyiq> scheme along side Emacs lisp as another interpreter in
monkeyiq> XEmacs?
Stephen> Not currently. There has been discussion of changing the Lisp engine
Stephen> in XEmacs -- see eg
Stephen> http://www.xemacs.org/Architecting-XEmacs/lisp-engine-replacement.html
Stephen>
http://www-pu.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/users/sperber/xemacs/next-gener...
Stephen> -- but there is no currently active effort AFAIK.
Actually, in terms of work expended, the effort is *very* active.
Matthias Neubauer just finished his M.A. thesis and implemented the
flow analysis necessary for doing a source-to-source compiler. Eric
Knauel ist currently doing the follow-up work to turn it into a
compiler. Richard Reingruber's work (GC replacement) includes making
the elisp object representation into something more palatable for
other substrates.
We just haven't gotten around to documenting most of it on the web.
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10:43 a.m.
sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) writes:
[ replacing Emacs Lisp ]
Actually, in terms of work expended, the effort is *very* active.
Matthias Neubauer just finished his M.A. thesis and implemented the
flow analysis necessary for doing a source-to-source compiler.
Is that thesis available for download?
Gunnar
8:04 p.m.
Gunnar Evermann <ge204(a)eng.cam.ac.uk> writes:
sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr.
Preprocessor]) writes:
[ replacing Emacs Lisp ]
> Actually, in terms of work expended, the effort is *very* active.
> Matthias Neubauer just finished his M.A. thesis and implemented the
> flow analysis necessary for doing a source-to-source compiler.
Is that thesis available for download?
It actually is. Try
http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~neubauer/diplom.ps.gz
and enjoy.
- Matthias
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