7:46 p.m.
So, I think that the crashes are under control (for me, anyway) but...
Seems now that occassionally, I have a blank gutter. Still has
active tabs, but I can't see them. I can do stuff and they'll come
back but as I sweep my mouse across the various xemacs frames I have,
the gutter will go black (which is my default background).
Just when I was getting used to using the tabs, too.
9:04 a.m.
At 02:46 PM 9/20/99 -0400, Georg Nikodym wrote:
So, I think that the crashes are under control (for me, anyway) but...
Seems now that occassionally, I have a blank gutter. Still has
active tabs, but I can't see them. I can do stuff and they'll come
back but as I sweep my mouse across the various xemacs frames I have,
the gutter will go black (which is my default background).
You mean you just move the mouse and it changes?
Excuse me while I go and howl in a corner ....
andy
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Dr Andy Piper
Senior Consultant Architect, BEA Systems Ltd
8:50 a.m.
At 02:46 PM 9/20/99 -0400, Georg Nikodym wrote:
>
>So, I think that the crashes are under control (for me, anyway) but...
>
>Seems now that occassionally, I have a blank gutter. Still has
>active tabs, but I can't see them. I can do stuff and they'll come
>back but as I sweep my mouse across the various xemacs frames I have,
>the gutter will go black (which is my default background).
This may be a dumb question, but, you're not in 8-bit color, are you?
3:11 p.m.
>>>> "CGW" == Charles G Waldman
<cgw(a)fnal.gov> writes:
> At 02:46 PM 9/20/99 -0400, Georg Nikodym wrote:
> >
> >So, I think that the crashes are under control (for me, anyway)
> >but...
> >
> >Seems now that occassionally, I have a blank gutter. Still has
> >active tabs, but I can't see them. I can do stuff and they'll
> >come back but as I sweep my mouse across the various xemacs
> >frames I have, the gutter will go black (which is my default
> >background).
CGW> This may be a dumb question, but, you're not in 8-bit color, are
CGW> you?
No. 24bit.
9:34 a.m.
At 02:46 PM 9/20/99 -0400, Georg Nikodym wrote:
So, I think that the crashes are under control (for me, anyway) but...
Seems now that occassionally, I have a blank gutter. Still has
active tabs, but I can't see them. I can do stuff and they'll come
back but as I sweep my mouse across the various xemacs frames I have,
the gutter will go black (which is my default background).
Firstly the tabs are supposed to be the same color as your default
background and the text is supposed to be the same as your default foreground.
When you say the gutter goes blank, do you just mean that the tabs have
both fg and bg set to the same? Can you produce a reproducible test case? I
don't see this just using -fg and -bg, so maybe your XEmacs setup is
different in some way?
Thanks
andy
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Dr Andy Piper
Senior Consultant Architect, BEA Systems Ltd
3:23 p.m.
>>>> "AP" == Andy Piper <andy(a)xemacs.org>
writes:
AP> At 02:46 PM 9/20/99 -0400, Georg Nikodym wrote:
>
> So, I think that the crashes are under control (for me, anyway)
> but...
>
> Seems now that occassionally, I have a blank gutter. Still has
> active tabs, but I can't see them. I can do stuff and they'll
> come back but as I sweep my mouse across the various xemacs frames
> I have, the gutter will go black (which is my default background).
AP> Firstly the tabs are supposed to be the same color as your
AP> default background and the text is supposed to be the same as
AP> your default foreground.
AP> When you say the gutter goes blank, do you just mean that the
AP> tabs have both fg and bg set to the same? Can you produce a
AP> reproducible test case? I don't see this just using -fg and -bg,
AP> so maybe your XEmacs setup is different in some way?
Sorry to have mentioned colour at all, it clearly has confused
everybody.
You'll agree that the tab redraw starts by blanking the gutter and
then the tabs are realized. The bug is that in certain situations,
the blanking happens, but the realization does not.
I was playing around attempting to come up with a reproduction recipe
and here's what I came up with:
- start xemacs
- M-x shell
- M-x rename-buffer foo
- M-x shell
- M-x rename-buffer bar
- C-x 3
- C-x 5 2
- move mouse into new frame and watch the tabs disappear...
- C-l in the new frame and you might get the tabs back, move the mouse
around and they might disappear again
4:30 p.m.
At 10:23 AM 9/21/99 -0400, Georg Nikodym wrote:
- start xemacs
- M-x shell
- M-x rename-buffer foo
- M-x shell
- M-x rename-buffer bar
- C-x 3
- C-x 5 2
- move mouse into new frame and watch the tabs disappear...
- C-l in the new frame and you might get the tabs back, move the mouse
around and they might disappear again
This works just fine for me. I'm guessing you have focus follows mouse,
which I don't and suspect can't have because I'm on NT. But I don't see
why
focus follows mouse would be a problem.
andy
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Dr Andy Piper
Senior Consultant Architect, BEA Systems Ltd
5:21 p.m.
>>>> "AP" == Andy Piper <andy(a)xemacs.org>
writes:
AP> At 10:23 AM 9/21/99 -0400, Georg Nikodym wrote:
> - start xemacs
> - M-x shell
> - M-x rename-buffer foo
> - M-x shell
> - M-x rename-buffer bar
> - C-x 3
> - C-x 5 2
> - move mouse into new frame and watch the tabs disappear...
> - C-l in the new frame and you might get the tabs back, move the
> mouse
> around and they might disappear again
AP> This works just fine for me. I'm guessing you have focus follows
AP> mouse, which I don't and suspect can't have because I'm on
AP> NT. But I don't see why focus follows mouse would be a problem.
Yes, I have focus-follows-mouse set to t.
4:54 p.m.
On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 10:23:03AM -0400, Georg Nikodym wrote:
I was playing around attempting to come up with a reproduction recipe
and here's what I came up with:
- start xemacs
- M-x shell
- M-x rename-buffer foo
- M-x shell
- M-x rename-buffer bar
- C-x 3
- C-x 5 2
- move mouse into new frame and watch the tabs disappear...
- C-l in the new frame and you might get the tabs back, move the mouse
around and they might disappear again
i am having loads of problems with the gutter thing (though far less
than some weeks ago) but i can't see the behaviour you get.
doing what you say just does not make the tabs dissapear, however i
admit i've seen them appear and dissapear a few times today.
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10:38 p.m.
No amount of C-l will make the tabs disappear for me.
The way to debug this if you have time is to put a printf statement in each
of x_map_subwindow and x_unmap_subwindow with the id. You should always get
an x_map_subwindow last if the tabs are to be visible. If you can break on
the x_unmap_subwindow that causes them to go away for good and send me a
backtrace that might help. Although this gets tricky with multiple frames.
I'm guessing it has something to do with expose events. Maybe even the
ignore expose is being over-zealous....
Or maybe Damon could send me his .emacs and I can try and reproduce it on
ms-windows.
andy
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Dr Andy Piper
Senior Consultant Architect, BEA Systems Ltd
10:08 a.m.
New subject: test case here (Was: Re: status report)
On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 10:38:04PM +0100, Andy Piper wrote:
No amount of C-l will make the tabs disappear for me.
you probably remember my black background and blue/white fg,
here is 100% to make the tab dissapear:
start xemacs,C-x f, C-x o to come back to scratch.
tab dissapeared and will reapear if C-l is pressed.
works everytime.
if you don't have this behaviour on NT, can somebody confirm having it
as well on linux? it might be the easiest one.
now if you really don't get that behaviour, i'll try to help you track
it down with some instructions if you want.
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10:58 a.m.
New subject: test case here (Was: Re: status report)
Stef Epardaud writes:
On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 10:38:04PM +0100, Andy Piper wrote:
> No amount of C-l will make the tabs disappear for me.
>
you probably remember my black background and blue/white fg,
here is 100% to make the tab dissapear:
start xemacs,C-x f, C-x o to come back to scratch.
tab dissapeared and will reapear if C-l is pressed.
works everytime.
if you don't have this behaviour on NT, can somebody confirm having it
as well on linux? it might be the easiest one.
I see this on linux. Whoops, following up to this mail has made the
gutter become invisible (grey on grey).
Robert
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