One application [XEmacs] misbehaves when its window is being maximised. Not a single other application I've ever seen in a decade of Linux usage or so does in *this* way. So your conclusion is the WMs are broken? I beg to differ. Even if they were, even if kwin and metacity *were* broken (not to speak of several others I've used during those years) - are we talking about usability here or about standards compliance? Do you want to give your users a satisfying experience or do you want to enforce standards? Don't get me wrong. I love standards. My job is to define, introduce and enforce standards. Standards butter my bread. But as a user I want my software to support me doing my job. I don't want to have to remember not to maximise a window. Well, I'm not really into the technical details. I'm mostly a user when it comes to XEmacs. I don't really care if XEmacs line-wraps the stuff (which seems natural to me, though, when changing the font size) or still gives me the number of columns I might have unconciously told it. I *do* care about the fact that maximising XEmacs has been broken now for quite some time for me, though, because it's *really* annoying. If I can help you track this problem down just let me know. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Wulf C. Krüger