Thanks for the new pre-release packages, Norbert! They installed fine here. Adrian 24 lines matching packages? in buffer *Message-Log*. 7187:Creating package list ... 7247:Creating package list ... 7260:Creating package list ... 7275:Creating package list ... 7281:Installing selected packages ... 7282:Retrieving package `prog-modes-1.77-pkg.tar.gz' ... 7400:Removing old files for package "prog-modes" ... 7401:Removing old files for package "prog-modes" ... done 7402:Installing package `prog-modes' ... 7404:Error loading package file "c:\Program Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\prog-modes\auto-autoloads" (error Already loaded)! 7407:Added package `prog-modes' 7408:Retrieving package `text-modes-1.61-pkg.tar.gz' ... 7484:Removing old files for package "text-modes" ... 7485:Removing old files for package "text-modes" ... done 7486:Installing package `text-modes' ... 7488:Error loading package file "c:\Program Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\text-modes\auto-autoloads" (error Already loaded)! 7491:Added package `text-modes' 7492:Retrieving package `vhdl-1.17-pkg.tar.gz' ... 7550:Removing old files for package "vhdl" ... 7551:Removing old files for package "vhdl" ... done 7552:Installing package `vhdl' ... 7554:Error loading package file "c:\Program Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\vhdl\auto-autoloads" (error Already loaded)! 7557:Added package `vhdl' 7558:Creating package list ... Norbert> Hey there everyone. Norbert> I have just added the following packages to the 'Pre-Releases' Norbert> directory: Norbert> New Packages in Pre-Release: Norbert> =========================== Norbert> prog-modes-1.77-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 21.4 Norbert> text-modes-1.61-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 21.4 Norbert> vhdl-1.17-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 3.31.20 Norbert> Previously Announced Packages Still in Pre-Release: Norbert> ================================================== Norbert> edebug-1.18-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 21.4 Norbert> edit-utils-2.01-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 21.4 Norbert> os-utils-1.31-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 21.4 Norbert> sasl-1.13-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 1.14.4 Norbert> tramp-1.13-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 2.0.34 Norbert> x-symbol-1.05-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 4.5.1 Norbert> Detailed Changes: Norbert> ================ Norbert> prog-modes-1.77 Norbert> --------------- Norbert> 2003-06-08 Norbert Koch <viteno(a)xemacs.org&gt; Norbert> * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.77 released. Norbert> 2003-06-07 Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org&gt; Norbert> * asm-mode.el: Add auto-mode-alist autoload cookie for .asm files. Norbert> 2003-06-06 Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org&gt; Norbert> * m4-mode.el: auto-mode-alist cookie update. Norbert> * verilog-mode.el: Ditto. Norbert> text-modes-1.61 Norbert> --------------- Norbert> 2003-06-08 Norbert Koch <viteno(a)xemacs.org&gt; Norbert> * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.61 released. Norbert> 2003-06-06 Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org&gt; Norbert> * po-mode.el: auto-mode-alist cookie update. Norbert> 2003-03-09 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org&gt; Norbert> * Makefile: Norbert> Delete explicit compile:: and binkit: rules. Norbert> Don't add custom-load.elc to the list of generated elc's. Norbert> vhdl-1.17 Norbert> --------- Norbert> 2003-06-08 Norbert Koch <viteno(a)xemacs.org&gt; Norbert> * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.17 released. Norbert> 2003-06-06 Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org&gt; Norbert> * vhdl-mode.el: auto-mode-alist cookie update. Norbert> 2003-03-09 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org&gt; Norbert> * Makefile: Norbert> Delete explicit compile:: and binkit: rules. Norbert> Don't add custom-load.elc to the list of generated elc's. Norbert> Use EXPLICIT_DOCS instead of explicitly giving the targets Norbert> and dependencies. Norbert> Installing These: Norbert> ================ Norbert> Manually: Norbert> -------- Norbert> 1) Download the packages that you want to install from: Norbert> /ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/beta/experimental/packages/ Norbert> 2) Unpack them to: [1] Norbert> /usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/ Norbert> 3) Re-start XEmacs. Norbert> Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.[245].x): Norbert> ---------------------------------------------- Norbert> 1) Tools -> Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases Norbert> 2) Tools -> Packages -> List and Install Norbert> 3) Select the packages you wish to install (there are brief Norbert> instructions at the bottom of the packages buffer). Norbert> 4) Packages -> Install/Remove Selected Norbert> 5) Re-start XEmacs. Norbert> Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.1.14): Norbert> ------------------------------------------- Norbert> 1) Options -> Manage Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases Norbert> 2) Options -> Manage Packages -> List and Install Norbert> 3 - 5) As per XEmacs 21.[245].x. Norbert> norbert. Norbert> Footnotes: Norbert> [1] Note: Mule packages should be installed into: Norbert> /usr/local/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/ -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/

Norbert Koch writes: I just downloaded the new tramp (sounds slightly kinky) along with the other new packages. I had to comment out some code to get tramp to work. FYI, I use tramp to edit my website via ssh. tramp.el: * comment out (require 'trampver) * comment out all references to tramp-smb custom-load.el: * comment out (custom-add-loads 'tramp '("tramp" "tramp-ftp" "tramp-smb")) Are there some files missing from the package? Here is what I have. ChangeLog _pkg.el auto-autoloads.el auto-autoloads.elc custom-load.el custom-load.elc tramp-util.el tramp-util.elc tramp-uu.el tramp-uu.elc tramp-vc.el tramp-vc.elc tramp.el tramp.elc trampcache.el trampcache.elc Cheers, Sean MacLennan http://xemacs.seanm.ca/

Norbert Koch writes: Sorry, forgot to include that. I am running 21.4.13. Cheers, Sean

kai.grossjohann(a)gmx.net (Kai Großjohann) writes: I've now looked at it. It seems that an XEmacs package needs to list the *.el files in Makefile, and perhaps also in package-info.in. I've now done both. I hope it was the right thing to do. How can I teste whether the pkg builds fine? I guess it's easiest to look at the smoke test tomorrow. -- This line is not blank.

Norbert Koch <viteno(a)xemacs.org&gt; writes: Okay, I hope I don't forget it. I tried to find stuff on xemacs.org but failed. Could you give me a nudge in the right direction for starting to read on how to build it? [time passes] Okay, now I stumbled across Develop/cvsaccess.html which nicely explains how to check things out of CVS. But it doesn't say how to build the packages. (I also wonder if it is possible to build Tramp without downloading all 80 MB of the pkg tree. But it's not terribly important.) I'm quite embarrassed to have to ask such neeb questions. I really should be able to figure it out from the docs. (I clicked on all the links under "Getting XEmacs" and under "Customizing XEmacs" and also under "Developing XEmacs". So at least I did try, but obviously not hard enough. Like I said, I'm embarrassed.) -- This line is not blank.

Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org&gt; writes: Okay, now I've learned that the fulltext search actually does something useful :-) Great. I've skimmed the lispref_4.html thing. It gives a lot of background info, which is nice to know. However, when it comes down to actually compiling the stuff, it points at the Develop/cvsaccess.html document. I didn't find hints on doing with less than the full download. But maybe I can just work my way forward from the ../../Local.rules.inc file that's needed. Ah, yes, in lispref_4.html it says that I need source for all these things. Nah. I think I'm too lazy. I just started the "cvs up -dP" in ~/work/gnu/xemacs/packages... -- This line is not blank.