Mats> Hi, Mats> Had some fun the other day and did a swedish version of the Mats> tutorial (Soon ready. How do I contribute?) Hi Mats, http://www.xemacs.org/Develop/index.html is a good starting point. What TUTORIAL version exactly have you based your translation on? It'll be great to have a swedish version of the TUTORIAL for XEmacs. Just send the file to xemacs-patches(a)xemacs.org stating that this is a new file and which XEmacs branch it corresponds to (21.1 or stable, 21.4 or gamma, 21.5 or beta). These are your references for TUTORIAL.se, depending on which release you are trgetting: main or trunk or beta is currently headed for 21.5: http://sunsite.dk/cvsweb/xemacs/etc/TUTORIAL?only_with_tag=MAIN release-21-4 or gamma: http://sunsite.dk/cvsweb/xemacs/etc/TUTORIAL?only_with_tag=release-21-4 release-21-1 or stable: http://sunsite.dk/cvsweb/xemacs/etc/TUTORIAL?only_with_tag=release-21-1 Please make sure to sync TUTORIAL.se with the corresponding english XEmacs TUTORIAL. Be aware that it will be simple to get the new TUTORIAL accepted for 21.5, but 21.1 has been released and it is unclear when/if there will be another release. Gamma release 21.4 is about to be accepted to become the current stable version. A Swedish tutorial will sure be a valuable addition for this release, but Stephen Turnbull will have to approve this. Mats> I found then that there were some things that didn't seem to Mats> be up to date with the current behavior. Example: "Del" now Current behavior in which version of XEmacs? Mats> by default "deletes the next character after the cursor." Mats> Now this is something that goes for all languages so if one Mats> of the tutorials is fixed the rest should be fixed to. I Mats> guess that the way to do it is to update the english version Mats> and then the other languages. Yes, that's what I have been doing for the German TUTORIAL.de. Mats> Is there any work in progress here? Are the tutorials in I have recently completed updating TUTORIAL.de in branch ben-mule-21-5 according to major changes in http://sunsite.dk/cvsweb/xemacs/etc/TUTORIAL?only_with_tag=ben-mule-21-5 by Ben Wing. If all goes well, this branch will be merged back to the trunk before 21.5 is released. Mats> sync with FSF? Well, XEmacs is not completely in sync with GNU Emacs either. The TUTORIAL needs to reflect this. Ben has done a lot of work in that area for ben-mule-21-5 and added key binding information for tty. Mats> Yours Mats> -- Mats> %% Mats Hope this helps, Adrian -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/

"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen(a)xemacs.org&gt; writes: I'll be more than happy to proof read it. /torkel

Stephen> Docs are always welcome. It would be nice to have a Stephen> second opinion on it before you submit it. Mats> I have submitted it to Björn for proofreading. I'll submit Mats> it after I get feedback from him. Mats> I'm sure others will have views on it when exposed to the Mats> public and isn't that a convenient way to fix it? It isn't Mats> code so it will hardly break something if included. Well, if the TUTORIAL is outright broken or full of typos or grammar mistakes or Norswedish ;-), newbies are likely to expect XEmacs to be just as broken. That's bad. It's generally more efficient to get one second opinion than to break your own head trying to proofread, that's all I had in mind. But I'd certainly take a new translation without it if the author insisted. Thanks to Björn, it will be proofread. Everybody happy, yes? APA> Current behavior in which version of XEmacs? Mats> I thought <Del> = "C-d" was default from at least 21.4? The Mats> tutorial in 21.5 says "You can delete the last character you Mats> typed by typing <Delete>." XEmacs has attempted to get delete-key-deletes-forward correct for at least three years. However, we haven't been totally successful. (At least several current threads on comp.emacs suggest we've been a _lot_ more successful than GNU Emacs, though, :-) I would say where you can use 21.4 as the reference. If that's too inconvenient, add an author's note that this Swedish version of the TUTORIAL was verified against 21.5 but 21.4 is expected to be identical at the level of the TUTORIAL. Then all bases are covered. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.