Re: [PATCH] supports fontset for Tabs

Valdis> Superior it may be. However, checking the FAQ that came Valdis> with XEmacs: You're confusing UI with implementation. IMO we should (but don't, except for the menubar and that only at initialization) support fontset X resources for the near term. Translating FontSet/FontList resources to face specifications is trivial in principle. Coordinating that with foreground, background, etc specified as resources is a PITA in practice, which is undoubtedly why nobody's done it yet. But internally these should be represented as faces, not as XFontSets. Valdis> So the score is now Customize 2, user 0. Yup. Steve considers letting Customize take over faces without being complete, let alone well-documented, one of the two really big mistakes he made. Unfortunately, Customize has metastasized throughout the Lisp internals concerned with faces. We've got a couple people interested in working on it, but I don't have time right now and Peter Brown is very new at it, so significant progress is likely to take a while. Pray for the return of Hrvoje and Jan, I guess. However, we can and should support the X resource interfaces while we're cleaning up the mess. Valdis> Now... how is a poor novice user who just *knows* "this Valdis> fontset works just fine for me everyplace else" supposed Valdis> to figure out how to specify a face without using a Valdis> fontset? In Customize he's hosed, at least for now. I don't think there's anything in XEmacs _except_ the menubar initialization code which supports setting a face from a fontset. Which means he can't use it in a buffer anyhow. Keep your wet noodle handy and beat me with it once in a while, and I'll get around to doing something about supporting FontSet -> face translation in .Xresources (hopefully dragooning somebody, maybe Valdis, he's enthusiastic---oops, sorry, that's you, guess not :-) ---into doing it instead of me). It's not likely to happen in Customize soon because it will require a complete overhaul of how the face widget thinks about fonts. Valdis> once I figure out why RedHat's texinfo-4.0c-1 does this: Because the xref is probably broken. Make it look like this: ----- ＠cindex Ebrowse The Ebrowse is a separate facility tailored for C++, with tags and a class browser. ＠xref{Top,,, ebrowse, Ebrowse User's Manual}. ＠menu ----- Yes, this patch is already in current 21.4. Hmmm.... Hot damn, not in 21.5. 6/24 ... that was on Martin's watch, got dropped in the transition I guess. Fixed, soon in CVS and then 21.5.4. Sor-reeee! Valdis> /Valdis (who just spent 45 minutes *trying* to implement Valdis> the superior solution). And we love you for it, believe me. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.